1 00:00:04,849 --> 00:00:03,050 they most likely be fine they will 2 00:00:09,110 --> 00:00:04,859 probably also know your whereabouts for 3 00:00:11,419 --> 00:00:09,120 the rest of your life the perimeter of 4 00:00:13,490 --> 00:00:11,429 the base is not fence but rather mark by 5 00:00:15,890 --> 00:00:13,500 posed for silver spheres and tops of the 6 00:00:18,980 --> 00:00:15,900 post which are used as a reference point 7 00:00:21,740 --> 00:00:18,990 by patrolling aircraft which consists of 8 00:00:24,170 --> 00:00:21,750 black unmarked helicopters and f-16s 9 00:00:27,170 --> 00:00:24,180 that can be very intimidating at low 10 00:00:29,419 --> 00:00:27,180 level they'll remotely operated 11 00:00:31,189 --> 00:00:29,429 solar-powered surveillance cameras just 12 00:00:34,069 --> 00:00:31,199 inside the boundary at strategic 13 00:00:36,620 --> 00:00:34,079 locations as well as motion sensors 14 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:36,630 microphones and optical and vibration 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:39,750 detectors ammonia detectors have also 16 00:00:44,090 --> 00:00:41,370 been mentioned which can sense the 17 00:00:45,619 --> 00:00:44,100 difference between humans and animals by 18 00:00:49,010 --> 00:00:45,629 the amount of ammonia in their 19 00:00:51,020 --> 00:00:49,020 preparation heat sensors are also used 20 00:00:55,729 --> 00:00:51,030 which can detect body heat at night and 21 00:00:57,740 --> 00:00:55,739 during the day in cool weather that's 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:00:57,750 one of them posed with sphere on top for 23 00:01:05,450 --> 00:01:01,770 marking the boundary that's one of the 24 00:01:07,130 --> 00:01:05,460 cameras employees who work at the base 25 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:07,140 sign an agreement to not discuss 26 00:01:11,690 --> 00:01:09,090 anything about the base and should they 27 00:01:15,620 --> 00:01:11,700 talk they give up their civil rights to 28 00:01:18,590 --> 00:01:15,630 a trial may be faced up to 10 years in 29 00:01:21,770 --> 00:01:18,600 prison and up to ten thousand dollars in 30 00:01:24,170 --> 00:01:21,780 fines security at the base is serious 31 00:01:25,940 --> 00:01:24,180 business for those who work there as 32 00:01:29,690 --> 00:01:25,950 well as those who attempt to violate 33 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:29,700 that security now I got something to 34 00:01:36,649 --> 00:01:31,290 share with you that I just found out 35 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:36,659 about last week I don't know how this 36 00:01:43,100 --> 00:01:41,250 happened having been there myself but in 37 00:01:46,969 --> 00:01:43,110 May of this year while trying to sneak 38 00:01:49,940 --> 00:01:46,979 into area 51 a 12-member British film 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:49,950 crew was held by agents at gunpoint and 40 00:01:54,530 --> 00:01:52,530 forced to lie on the ground for three 41 00:01:58,219 --> 00:01:54,540 hours while the FBI checked their 42 00:02:01,249 --> 00:01:58,229 credentials Apache helicopters were 43 00:02:04,850 --> 00:02:01,259 called in in Washington phoned London 44 00:02:07,249 --> 00:02:04,860 after they were caught trespassing the 45 00:02:09,619 --> 00:02:07,259 local sheriff was called in and each 46 00:02:11,559 --> 00:02:09,629 person was questioned and given a fine 47 00:02:13,780 --> 00:02:11,569 of six hundred dollars 48 00:02:17,259 --> 00:02:13,790 in addition to being threatened at all 49 00:02:18,819 --> 00:02:17,269 would go to prison for six months one of 50 00:02:20,559 --> 00:02:18,829 the group talked to a guard and he was 51 00:02:25,569 --> 00:02:20,569 told how they could make you disappear 52 00:02:27,849 --> 00:02:25,579 and your body will never be found he was 53 00:02:30,699 --> 00:02:27,859 also told the Apache helicopter had been 54 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:30,709 monitoring them from two miles away and 55 00:02:35,349 --> 00:02:32,810 over 20 guards had driven up from the 56 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:35,359 base to deal with them most of them with 57 00:02:41,319 --> 00:02:38,930 guns the film equipment was taken and 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:41,329 when they got back to Las Vegas they 59 00:02:45,690 --> 00:02:43,010 were followed everywhere they went that 60 00:02:49,420 --> 00:02:45,700 day by unmarked government vehicles 61 00:02:51,490 --> 00:02:49,430 that's my understanding of this that 62 00:02:54,399 --> 00:02:51,500 there was about 12 of them filming 63 00:02:58,059 --> 00:02:54,409 outside the gate but the guard shack is 64 00:02:59,709 --> 00:02:58,069 that you saw and they claim that they 65 00:03:04,059 --> 00:02:59,719 were there for about 30 minutes and 66 00:03:06,429 --> 00:03:04,069 didn't see any guards when I was out 67 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:06,439 there and I'll talk about in a minute we 68 00:03:12,250 --> 00:03:09,730 just got there and the guards were there 69 00:03:13,990 --> 00:03:12,260 they think that the guards were sitting 70 00:03:17,619 --> 00:03:14,000 in the guard shack eating dinner and 71 00:03:19,179 --> 00:03:17,629 watching a basketball game on TV so 72 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:19,189 anyway they were outside the gate for 73 00:03:28,420 --> 00:03:25,040 20-30 minutes making noise and then one 74 00:03:31,619 --> 00:03:28,430 of a group went through the gate and 75 00:03:33,729 --> 00:03:31,629 knocked on the door of the guard shack 76 00:03:35,770 --> 00:03:33,739 immediately they came out with guns 77 00:03:36,939 --> 00:03:35,780 thrown put him on the ground and kept 78 00:03:40,839 --> 00:03:36,949 them on the ground for three and a half 79 00:03:42,939 --> 00:03:40,849 hours what they normally do they don't 80 00:03:44,710 --> 00:03:42,949 the military or the government normally 81 00:03:47,439 --> 00:03:44,720 doesn't handle this they call the local 82 00:03:49,629 --> 00:03:47,449 sheriff sheriff comes out and he 83 00:03:51,849 --> 00:03:49,639 interrogated each one of them separately 84 00:03:54,369 --> 00:03:51,859 and then find them six hundred dollars 85 00:03:57,879 --> 00:03:54,379 and threatened them with six months in 86 00:04:01,569 --> 00:03:57,889 prison somebody in Washington called 87 00:04:05,409 --> 00:04:01,579 London England and told them that their 88 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:05,419 people had trespassed at area 51 and out 89 00:04:09,569 --> 00:04:06,889 of the good nature of somebody in 90 00:04:14,679 --> 00:04:09,579 Washington the prison sentence was not 91 00:04:16,569 --> 00:04:14,689 enforced but I guarantee you the United 92 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:16,579 States government will know where those 93 00:04:22,310 --> 00:04:18,889 12 people are for the rest of their 94 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:26,550 that got my attention because of having 95 00:04:32,190 --> 00:04:28,570 been there and knowing what the security 96 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:32,200 is but never having heard that it's 97 00:04:42,030 --> 00:04:35,890 possible that this could happen this was 98 00:04:44,730 --> 00:04:42,040 this was fact this happened nevada 99 00:04:46,590 --> 00:04:44,740 highway 375 was renamed the 100 00:04:48,510 --> 00:04:46,600 extra-terrestrial highway a few years 101 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:48,520 ago by the governor of Nevada and 102 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:50,560 there's a nineteen ninety eight mile 103 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:53,770 stretch of highway and 30 miles north of 104 00:04:58,530 --> 00:04:55,570 the southern end is where the town of 105 00:05:00,540 --> 00:04:58,540 rachel is located one of the few side 106 00:05:02,610 --> 00:05:00,550 roads intersects the highway heading off 107 00:05:04,290 --> 00:05:02,620 to the south toward the distant 108 00:05:08,370 --> 00:05:04,300 mountains were one of the entrances of 109 00:05:12,390 --> 00:05:08,380 the base is located now when I was up 110 00:05:15,180 --> 00:05:12,400 there that's a 13 mile dirt road back to 111 00:05:18,990 --> 00:05:15,190 that mountain and the guard shack is 112 00:05:21,030 --> 00:05:19,000 packed behind that that Ridge about ten 113 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:21,040 miles down that road I told my wife I 114 00:05:27,330 --> 00:05:23,770 said start watching for trucks or jeeps 115 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:27,340 up on the sand dunes sure enough we came 116 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:29,710 around the corner where the signs are 117 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:32,890 and there was a chevy pickup sitting up 118 00:05:38,490 --> 00:05:35,890 on the sand dune two guys binoculars 119 00:05:40,620 --> 00:05:38,500 watching us by the time we got to that 120 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:40,630 point they already had my license number 121 00:05:45,870 --> 00:05:42,250 and property knew where of us from who 122 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:45,880 my mother was whatever so there's no way 123 00:05:49,710 --> 00:05:47,170 that you're going to get around to 124 00:05:51,540 --> 00:05:49,720 security up there a ranchers black 125 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:51,550 mailbox was at the intersection until 126 00:05:58,950 --> 00:05:55,690 March 27th 1996 when it was replaced by 127 00:06:00,960 --> 00:05:58,960 a heavier duty white mailbox this may be 128 00:06:04,650 --> 00:06:00,970 the world's most photographed mailbox 129 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:04,660 it's a highly reverent landmark too many 130 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:06,910 UFO enthusiasts who have had sightings 131 00:06:13,260 --> 00:06:09,090 of unusual objects in the distant sky 132 00:06:15,870 --> 00:06:13,270 ballpark they're an ape until April 10th 133 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:15,880 1995 there was a pair of hilltop view 134 00:06:19,890 --> 00:06:18,070 points in the jumbled Hills that 135 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:19,900 overlooked the portion of the base known 136 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:22,770 as white site mountain and freedom Ridge 137 00:06:28,770 --> 00:06:25,450 the air force went before Congress and 138 00:06:30,950 --> 00:06:28,780 received permission to annex some 5,000 139 00:06:34,170 --> 00:06:30,960 acres including those two viewpoints 140 00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:34,180 into the buffer zone of the base this 141 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:34,990 means that they 142 00:06:39,450 --> 00:06:37,510 very incorporated into area 51 is now 143 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:39,460 the size of the state of Connecticut and 144 00:06:44,610 --> 00:06:42,130 the restricted airspace above the base 145 00:06:47,490 --> 00:06:44,620 and closes almost a thousand square 146 00:06:49,890 --> 00:06:47,500 miles today the only remaining 147 00:06:52,380 --> 00:06:49,900 viewpoints to see parts of the base into 148 00:06:56,010 --> 00:06:52,390 the emigrant valley or a tikka boo peek 149 00:06:59,910 --> 00:06:56,020 in badger mountain some 25 27 mile miles 150 00:07:02,190 --> 00:06:59,920 from the base access is difficult in the 151 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:02,200 winter and viewing the base from there 152 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:04,000 in the summer of nearly feudal due to 153 00:07:09,780 --> 00:07:06,490 atmospheric distortion over that greater 154 00:07:11,970 --> 00:07:09,790 distance the town of rachel is located 155 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:11,980 in the sand spring valley some 27 miles 156 00:07:17,430 --> 00:07:14,080 from the top secret base control tower 157 00:07:20,490 --> 00:07:17,440 known as dreamland and it's the closest 158 00:07:22,770 --> 00:07:20,500 town to the base Rachel began as a 159 00:07:26,430 --> 00:07:22,780 mining town in the Union Carbide company 160 00:07:29,340 --> 00:07:26,440 reopened a tungsten mile 98 miles to the 161 00:07:31,650 --> 00:07:29,350 northeast peak population of Rachel 162 00:07:34,170 --> 00:07:31,660 during the mining days is about four to 163 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:34,180 five hundred residents when the mines 164 00:07:39,780 --> 00:07:36,960 closed in 1988 the workers mood and 165 00:07:43,140 --> 00:07:39,790 today Rachel has a population of less 166 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:43,150 than 100 some who are retired some who 167 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:46,000 work on local farms and ranches as well 168 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:49,120 as the for businesses in town a few in 169 00:07:54,930 --> 00:07:51,910 town work at area 51 and at the Air 170 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:54,940 Force Tonopah test range but of course 171 00:08:00,090 --> 00:07:58,000 those that do cannot talk about it the 172 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:00,100 businesses consists of a quick pic mini 173 00:08:05,370 --> 00:08:02,800 market a gas station small convenience 174 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:05,380 store and Rachel's most famous landmark 175 00:08:10,980 --> 00:08:08,410 the little alien in patent Joe Travis 176 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:10,990 bought the inn in 1988 the former name 177 00:08:15,330 --> 00:08:12,970 of the motel restaurant and bar was the 178 00:08:17,820 --> 00:08:15,340 Rachel bar and grill and prior to that 179 00:08:20,430 --> 00:08:17,830 was the watering hole and the little 180 00:08:22,580 --> 00:08:20,440 oasis there's a public phone outside the 181 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:22,590 end but you need a credit card to use it 182 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:26,890 Rachel Nevada is that a caesarian is in 183 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:30,250 a remote part of the state every 51 to 184 00:08:35,370 --> 00:08:32,800 several runways one of which you're 185 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:35,380 locked into inception radio network 186 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:45,230 your tool in tonight vision radio 187 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:48,810 exposing the truth one secret at a time 188 00:08:54,060 --> 00:08:51,610 prepare yourself as we explore the 189 00:08:57,269 --> 00:08:54,070 shadow world of suppressed history 190 00:09:00,120 --> 00:08:57,279 secret knowledge and forbidden religion 191 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:00,130 and shine a light on the conspiracies to 192 00:09:21,370 --> 00:09:24,650 what 193 00:09:43,190 --> 00:09:27,090 this 194 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:50,760 welcome to night vision radio 195 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:53,860 hey everybody so glad you could be here 196 00:09:58,750 --> 00:09:55,730 with us tonight there's a great show 197 00:10:00,160 --> 00:09:58,760 planned got a fantastic guest our guest 198 00:10:03,460 --> 00:10:00,170 tonight knows a little bit of something 199 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:03,470 about the other side we have master 200 00:10:07,780 --> 00:10:05,810 psychic medium george lugo with us 201 00:10:11,410 --> 00:10:07,790 tonight thanks so much for joining us 202 00:10:14,500 --> 00:10:11,420 George you bet hey here oh I'm so 203 00:10:16,930 --> 00:10:14,510 excited to have you on I heard so much 204 00:10:18,550 --> 00:10:16,940 about your work and of course heard a 205 00:10:20,950 --> 00:10:18,560 lot about you from our good buddy but 206 00:10:22,900 --> 00:10:20,960 Patricia Baker of supernatural girls and 207 00:10:25,090 --> 00:10:22,910 she's going to be on this station very 208 00:10:29,170 --> 00:10:25,100 very soon but i want to thank her for 209 00:10:32,290 --> 00:10:29,180 introducing us so we owe her one for 210 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:32,300 that but i love her she's gonna like she 211 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:33,770 has enough energy to light up a small 212 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:36,230 city she sure does she's got the wild 213 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:38,510 stuff going up on up there in the castle 214 00:10:44,860 --> 00:10:42,260 to castle in the woods that's right 215 00:10:47,290 --> 00:10:44,870 anyhow George let's get right into you 216 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:47,300 and your background is a psychic medium 217 00:10:52,570 --> 00:10:50,660 now this is something that I understand 218 00:10:55,810 --> 00:10:52,580 that you've been aware of since you were 219 00:10:58,900 --> 00:10:55,820 you were very young yeah just born with 220 00:11:00,580 --> 00:10:58,910 it you know and not always a welcome 221 00:11:02,950 --> 00:11:00,590 thing you know it's kind of a 222 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:02,960 double-edged sword but yes I I was born 223 00:11:07,930 --> 00:11:05,450 with it and my first recollection is 224 00:11:09,790 --> 00:11:07,940 before I was actually born sahnaya 225 00:11:12,490 --> 00:11:09,800 sounds kind of way out there but that's 226 00:11:14,950 --> 00:11:12,500 what happened oh wow in like growing up 227 00:11:17,140 --> 00:11:14,960 did you like try to kind of hide it from 228 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:17,150 people sometimes cuz you felt like you 229 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:19,490 know why am i different yeah you know I 230 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:21,050 didn't understand it you know I didn't 231 00:11:25,630 --> 00:11:23,090 have a vocabulary for it I grew up in a 232 00:11:27,010 --> 00:11:25,640 small town and we ought p all these 233 00:11:28,990 --> 00:11:27,020 things were like popping out of the 234 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:29,000 woodwork and I just didn't I didn't know 235 00:11:32,530 --> 00:11:30,530 what they were i mean i felt like i was 236 00:11:35,140 --> 00:11:32,540 extremely haunted you know i mean it 237 00:11:36,610 --> 00:11:35,150 just nobody else saw these things or 238 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:36,620 would talk about it so i thought it was 239 00:11:42,850 --> 00:11:39,050 like bad words or something so as a very 240 00:11:45,490 --> 00:11:42,860 young child I just kind of ran from it 241 00:11:48,490 --> 00:11:45,500 all the time you know it did in did the 242 00:11:53,490 --> 00:11:48,500 fact that you were male also sort of 243 00:11:55,420 --> 00:11:53,500 come into play there uh because you know 244 00:11:57,850 --> 00:11:55,430 intuition and all that you always hear 245 00:12:00,760 --> 00:11:57,860 feminine intuition female intuition and 246 00:12:01,210 --> 00:12:00,770 it does seem like a lot of psychic 247 00:12:03,699 --> 00:12:01,220 source 248 00:12:05,530 --> 00:12:03,709 mediums are women although I know a lot 249 00:12:08,949 --> 00:12:05,540 of great male psychics and we don't have 250 00:12:12,670 --> 00:12:08,959 to name them all off but I growing up as 251 00:12:14,769 --> 00:12:12,680 a kid was that also kind of into play 252 00:12:18,009 --> 00:12:14,779 it's like the other guys are going to 253 00:12:21,369 --> 00:12:18,019 think I'm crazy or something like that 254 00:12:23,769 --> 00:12:21,379 well you know what I mean I grew up in 255 00:12:25,389 --> 00:12:23,779 his family with mostly women and I 256 00:12:28,420 --> 00:12:25,399 didn't have a I had a brother but he 257 00:12:32,110 --> 00:12:28,430 passed away mom but outside of that it 258 00:12:35,650 --> 00:12:32,120 was just sisters aunts grandmothers I 259 00:12:37,869 --> 00:12:35,660 get a no males in Ellen it was armed I 260 00:12:41,379 --> 00:12:37,879 seem to be the only one in that family 261 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:41,389 on my mother's side that had it and I 262 00:12:45,850 --> 00:12:43,490 didn't meet my father's side until I was 263 00:12:50,220 --> 00:12:45,860 after 18 and they had a bunch of it 264 00:12:52,569 --> 00:12:50,230 hello so and they were really happy to 265 00:12:54,550 --> 00:12:52,579 find out they helped me a lot they kind 266 00:12:57,069 --> 00:12:54,560 of gave me a vocabulary for it kind of 267 00:12:59,829 --> 00:12:57,079 showed me what was going on uh they all 268 00:13:02,110 --> 00:12:59,839 had slightly different angles of it but 269 00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:02,120 boy was it strong there you know and it 270 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:04,670 really helped me a lot to understand you 271 00:13:09,939 --> 00:13:06,290 know what happened going through now I 272 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:09,949 know you you do amazing work in you know 273 00:13:16,329 --> 00:13:13,370 contacting loved ones or spirits people 274 00:13:19,569 --> 00:13:16,339 on the other side and I'm wondering a 275 00:13:20,710 --> 00:13:19,579 said you lost your brother how old were 276 00:13:23,650 --> 00:13:20,720 you when that happened if you don't mind 277 00:13:27,189 --> 00:13:23,660 me asking well I was done I was the UM 278 00:13:29,889 --> 00:13:27,199 the firstborn and then he was stillborn 279 00:13:32,769 --> 00:13:29,899 out for that and so there was like a 280 00:13:35,439 --> 00:13:32,779 five year period before my mother was 281 00:13:38,350 --> 00:13:35,449 pregnant again and had my first answer 282 00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:38,360 me sisters I see did you ever have any 283 00:13:44,199 --> 00:13:41,360 psychic connection with the brother you 284 00:13:46,569 --> 00:13:44,209 know I thought I felt him a few times 285 00:13:48,189 --> 00:13:46,579 that I wasn't really sure I kind of feel 286 00:13:50,740 --> 00:13:48,199 like he's always been watching over me 287 00:13:53,379 --> 00:13:50,750 yeah but but I'm not I could never 288 00:13:55,210 --> 00:13:53,389 really put my finger on it exactly 289 00:13:58,090 --> 00:13:55,220 little things would happen that made me 290 00:14:00,879 --> 00:13:58,100 feel that somebody extremely close to me 291 00:14:03,699 --> 00:14:00,889 was there but I never met him you know I 292 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:03,709 didn't and I didn't see him either so I 293 00:14:11,290 --> 00:14:07,689 don't know it's kind of unusual in now 294 00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:11,300 did you start out I mean or have you 295 00:14:14,710 --> 00:14:12,910 always been a psychic medium 296 00:14:16,269 --> 00:14:14,720 professionally or 297 00:14:18,249 --> 00:14:16,279 there a time when you were like pursuing 298 00:14:21,249 --> 00:14:18,259 other things and you're trying to sort 299 00:14:23,050 --> 00:14:21,259 of push this to the side and then you or 300 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:23,060 was it always something that was just so 301 00:14:28,660 --> 00:14:24,889 much in the forefront that you always 302 00:14:30,579 --> 00:14:28,670 kind of knew well from birth up into a 303 00:14:32,259 --> 00:14:30,589 senior in high school it was something 304 00:14:34,689 --> 00:14:32,269 that was chasing me down all the time 305 00:14:36,369 --> 00:14:34,699 hmm and I didn't have a vocabulary for 306 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:36,379 it and I met my relatives on my dad's 307 00:14:43,869 --> 00:14:42,290 side um when I was 18 but to get I was 308 00:14:45,879 --> 00:14:43,879 trying to get rid of it all the time so 309 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:45,889 I ended up becoming a drum redder at 310 00:14:50,949 --> 00:14:48,889 around 13 so you know all that noise 311 00:14:52,809 --> 00:14:50,959 kind of just block it out I thought I 312 00:14:55,660 --> 00:14:52,819 could do it with that you know and it 313 00:14:58,329 --> 00:14:55,670 didn't work but I lived in Los Angeles 314 00:15:00,759 --> 00:14:58,339 for quite a while toward the world about 315 00:15:03,460 --> 00:15:00,769 six times and I played with all kinds of 316 00:15:06,910 --> 00:15:03,470 different you know major acts and things 317 00:15:09,460 --> 00:15:06,920 like that and it was wonderful but in my 318 00:15:11,439 --> 00:15:09,470 travels it's very interesting these 319 00:15:14,590 --> 00:15:11,449 different people different mediums or 320 00:15:17,679 --> 00:15:14,600 psychics like Hindus and and Buddhist 321 00:15:19,869 --> 00:15:17,689 monks of Aborigine you know that sex 322 00:15:21,730 --> 00:15:19,879 they would all come up to me like they 323 00:15:23,199 --> 00:15:21,740 could recognize it me without saying a 324 00:15:25,389 --> 00:15:23,209 word and because I didn't know how to 325 00:15:28,119 --> 00:15:25,399 look for it so they would invite me into 326 00:15:29,799 --> 00:15:28,129 their circles to just kind of hang out 327 00:15:32,139 --> 00:15:29,809 with him and I've learned things from 328 00:15:34,329 --> 00:15:32,149 them you know and David I would help 329 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:34,339 them too so I don't know it's been a 330 00:15:38,379 --> 00:15:36,529 learning experience the whole thing now 331 00:15:40,299 --> 00:15:38,389 let me ask you this after having that 332 00:15:41,980 --> 00:15:40,309 experience of having like you said they 333 00:15:44,559 --> 00:15:41,990 kind of knew their own you know they 334 00:15:47,110 --> 00:15:44,569 kind of recognized you have you 335 00:15:49,509 --> 00:15:47,120 developed that in yourself where yeah 336 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:49,519 absolutely now when you meet someone do 337 00:15:54,490 --> 00:15:52,730 you know yes I do wait tell I can tell 338 00:15:56,559 --> 00:15:54,500 if they're will want to be or they're 339 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:56,569 really got it there's a certain feel to 340 00:16:00,400 --> 00:15:58,490 them yes that you just pick up 341 00:16:02,470 --> 00:16:00,410 immediately that you just know they're 342 00:16:04,030 --> 00:16:02,480 the real deal you know you may not know 343 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:04,040 exactly what it is until you talk to 344 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:06,649 them and sometimes you know people that 345 00:16:11,530 --> 00:16:09,769 really do this for them for real lots of 346 00:16:12,970 --> 00:16:11,540 them are kind of quiet and you don't say 347 00:16:16,119 --> 00:16:12,980 too much they're sort of quiet about it 348 00:16:18,309 --> 00:16:16,129 yeah so just in a conversation that will 349 00:16:21,639 --> 00:16:18,319 usually surface and then you then you're 350 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:21,649 into it mmm you know so yes impractical 351 00:16:27,189 --> 00:16:24,050 people have you ever identified anyone 352 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:27,199 like that and when they said to you oh 353 00:16:30,319 --> 00:16:28,410 no i don't 354 00:16:32,990 --> 00:16:30,329 have you ever identified it for someone 355 00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:33,000 who wasn't aware of their ability yes 356 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:36,839 yes I find that people that in general I 357 00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:39,170 find that people that think all this is 358 00:16:43,309 --> 00:16:41,550 smoke and mirrors or you know just your 359 00:16:46,009 --> 00:16:43,319 imagination and all that or some of this 360 00:16:48,319 --> 00:16:46,019 site are some of the strongest psychics 361 00:16:50,829 --> 00:16:48,329 or strongest mediums just because they 362 00:16:54,110 --> 00:16:50,839 just don't know they kind of live in it 363 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:54,120 really yeah they live in it so they 364 00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:56,850 don't see it it's not real obvious to 365 00:17:00,559 --> 00:16:58,560 them but they're actually helping people 366 00:17:02,210 --> 00:17:00,569 they don't know they are under you know 367 00:17:05,029 --> 00:17:02,220 having these visions and you just think 368 00:17:06,919 --> 00:17:05,039 is their intellect so you know it's like 369 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:06,929 that that's really interesting I mean 370 00:17:13,370 --> 00:17:09,329 that's sort of how my mother has always 371 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:13,380 been we didn't ever call her a psychic 372 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:16,079 or anything but she always knew stuff 373 00:17:20,899 --> 00:17:17,970 and she always had these prophetic 374 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:20,909 dreams and you know not just about us 375 00:17:26,260 --> 00:17:23,370 but about all different people in town 376 00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:26,270 and you know I could never do anything 377 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:29,039 and get by with it she'd always know by 378 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:30,809 the time I got home where I've been and 379 00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:33,120 what I had done but we didn't say and 380 00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:35,039 still don't say she's psychic and 381 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:39,150 actually you know I think I mentioned 382 00:17:45,820 --> 00:17:41,850 you that I had lost my daughter several 383 00:17:49,789 --> 00:17:45,830 years back yeah and when she passed 384 00:17:51,230 --> 00:17:49,799 before my mother even knew that my 385 00:17:55,490 --> 00:17:51,240 daughter had passed my daughter came to 386 00:17:57,470 --> 00:17:55,500 visit her woke her up you know that 387 00:17:59,480 --> 00:17:57,480 night in and we figured out later that 388 00:18:02,539 --> 00:17:59,490 it was just about the exact time that my 389 00:18:06,620 --> 00:18:02,549 daughter actually passed but one since 390 00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:06,630 it was just sort of a part of life you 391 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:08,510 know we didn't label it as anything 392 00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:12,000 exactly yeah right exactly and so you 393 00:18:16,909 --> 00:18:13,470 must have probably had it very strong 394 00:18:19,250 --> 00:18:16,919 and just lived in it you know exactly 395 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:19,260 yeah very natural thing in fact it's 396 00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:21,330 kind of unusual you know in our country 397 00:18:26,899 --> 00:18:24,240 in the US we've sort of like processed 398 00:18:28,370 --> 00:18:26,909 all that kind of stuff out of our lives 399 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:28,380 you know because of religion and all 400 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:30,450 that sort of stuff but you go to a third 401 00:18:35,690 --> 00:18:33,210 world country when someone's having an 402 00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:35,700 issue they'll say gay go see you know 403 00:18:39,980 --> 00:18:37,860 Uncle Paco because you know taking this 404 00:18:41,690 --> 00:18:39,990 wine or this tequila and go spend the 405 00:18:43,820 --> 00:18:41,700 night with him he'll tell you what you 406 00:18:46,580 --> 00:18:43,830 to know yeah that no big deal there you 407 00:18:49,879 --> 00:18:46,590 know they get it so here people are kind 408 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:49,889 of afraid of it um but you know more now 409 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:52,110 than ever since we have all these 410 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:54,330 different TV shows showing it and most 411 00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:57,690 of its Hollywood I mean but the real 412 00:19:02,659 --> 00:19:00,000 stuff every once in a while you get to 413 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:02,669 meet someone who really can do it so 414 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:06,480 yeah now what your mother bobby was a 415 00:19:11,299 --> 00:19:08,730 very sensitive person you know yeah um 416 00:19:13,850 --> 00:19:11,309 would you sort of like up and down you 417 00:19:15,860 --> 00:19:13,860 know did she like kind of manic 418 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:15,870 sometimes or depressed sometimes or cuz 419 00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:17,700 i run the whole gamut yeah that's 420 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:21,840 usually more to clinical depression i 421 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:23,610 mean not really bad but you know what i 422 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:26,010 mean like i only depressed but she's 423 00:19:30,409 --> 00:19:27,510 still around you know and she's still 424 00:19:32,930 --> 00:19:30,419 psychic and and uh yes probably it 425 00:19:35,269 --> 00:19:32,940 probably just you know she had no way no 426 00:19:39,980 --> 00:19:35,279 outlet no one to talk to about it and it 427 00:19:42,049 --> 00:19:39,990 can make it kind of crazy yeah yo she's 428 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:42,059 kind of a loner you know my mom was yes 429 00:19:48,139 --> 00:19:45,570 exactly smart but a loner and then of 430 00:19:51,049 --> 00:19:48,149 course you know we were in the the bible 431 00:19:53,060 --> 00:19:51,059 belt in the south you know so but what 432 00:19:54,620 --> 00:19:53,070 you were talking about about the 433 00:19:57,289 --> 00:19:54,630 indigenous peoples you know the same 434 00:20:00,200 --> 00:19:57,299 thing I grew up in Oklahoma and you know 435 00:20:02,570 --> 00:20:00,210 you go to the medicine man right uh you 436 00:20:04,669 --> 00:20:02,580 know it's like they'll you know you take 437 00:20:06,529 --> 00:20:04,679 my pack of cigarettes and say fix these 438 00:20:07,730 --> 00:20:06,539 for me and they do something to them and 439 00:20:09,649 --> 00:20:07,740 then you go and smoke those cigarettes 440 00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:09,659 and that's right takes care of the 441 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:11,820 problem yeah when I was in the third 442 00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:15,330 grade arm well in kindergarten I would 443 00:20:19,310 --> 00:20:16,710 draw all these pictures of things that I 444 00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:19,320 was seeing am I my kindergarten teacher 445 00:20:23,269 --> 00:20:21,120 would hang on to them can go what is 446 00:20:25,700 --> 00:20:23,279 this no so the time I got to the third 447 00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:25,710 grade I had this great teacher she was a 448 00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:27,600 real scientist in all this and I love 449 00:20:33,529 --> 00:20:31,740 science she said every monday we have to 450 00:20:35,389 --> 00:20:33,539 write a paragraph about what we did this 451 00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:35,399 past weekend so kids would write you 452 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:37,710 know with swimming play with my brother 453 00:20:41,060 --> 00:20:39,570 that kind of stuff and i'm writing that 454 00:20:43,700 --> 00:20:41,070 we're going to be looking at televisions 455 00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:43,710 that are going to have on typewriters in 456 00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:45,360 front of them so i was describing 457 00:20:51,950 --> 00:20:49,200 computer just like back in 1962 and I 458 00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:51,960 also told him that I would draw pictures 459 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:55,470 and write out I also said that 460 00:21:00,409 --> 00:20:57,690 there was going to be a fake gas crunch 461 00:21:02,450 --> 00:21:00,419 in the middle of the 70s and that we and 462 00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:02,460 that gas would go skyrocket high and 463 00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:04,950 then that we would be buying cars 464 00:21:11,149 --> 00:21:07,710 smaller cars instead of Cadillacs from 465 00:21:15,470 --> 00:21:11,159 people that had very slanted eyes so and 466 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:15,480 then i also i drew out to tall towers 467 00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:17,850 with two planes crashing in each playing 468 00:21:23,870 --> 00:21:20,880 crashing in each one that was 911 well 469 00:21:26,539 --> 00:21:23,880 when was that 162 and that was my 470 00:21:29,149 --> 00:21:26,549 goodness so my teacher would look at 471 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:29,159 these pages every Monday should go to me 472 00:21:33,289 --> 00:21:31,049 first and look at it and she says all 473 00:21:36,049 --> 00:21:33,299 right go to the office and take this 474 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:36,059 with you so I would go to the office and 475 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:38,970 that particularly eater yep that one 476 00:21:44,659 --> 00:21:41,490 year we had an Indian chief who was 477 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:44,669 principal and so he would call me in his 478 00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:46,650 office and he'd say where are you 479 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:48,480 getting this from and I said I don't 480 00:21:53,810 --> 00:21:51,090 know I just draw it out and ride it out 481 00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:53,820 he says if you were in my tribe you'd be 482 00:21:58,399 --> 00:21:56,100 a road man and I have no idea what that 483 00:21:59,899 --> 00:21:58,409 was I didn't ask and i only found that 484 00:22:02,779 --> 00:21:59,909 about that it may be like five six years 485 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:02,789 ago uh a navajo person that I know up in 486 00:22:07,940 --> 00:22:05,610 northern Arizona told me a road man is 487 00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:07,950 basically a medicine man who stays on 488 00:22:13,820 --> 00:22:10,590 the road and travels to all the 489 00:22:17,390 --> 00:22:13,830 different tribes and only speaks to the 490 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:17,400 elders and the medicine man let me try 491 00:22:23,870 --> 00:22:20,370 and so he stays on the move constantly 492 00:22:27,049 --> 00:22:23,880 so they're called road men well instead 493 00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:27,059 of thing yeah yeah and you thought he 494 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:31,260 was Navajo know well my principal wasn't 495 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:32,970 he was like a Plains Indian and I'm not 496 00:22:39,020 --> 00:22:36,090 sure which tribe but his family would 497 00:22:41,630 --> 00:22:39,030 come and do a big show out on the 498 00:22:43,490 --> 00:22:41,640 blacktop you know where the basketball 499 00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:43,500 court was and all the kids would come 500 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:45,720 out and said on the blacktop and when it 501 00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,809 came to doing the Eagle dance he would 502 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:50,640 pull me out of the audience and had me 503 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:52,890 sit there and then have his relative 504 00:22:56,270 --> 00:22:54,330 dance around me with these eagle 505 00:22:59,450 --> 00:22:56,280 feathers and stuff so it's like they 506 00:23:03,950 --> 00:22:59,460 knew you know and so it was just very 507 00:23:05,330 --> 00:23:03,960 interesting growing up you know so all 508 00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:05,340 these different things that come to me 509 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:08,590 is just pretty neat well that's that 510 00:23:12,690 --> 00:23:10,690 it's really interesting now have you 511 00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:12,700 spent a lot of time with different 512 00:23:16,590 --> 00:23:15,070 groups you know like it seems like you 513 00:23:19,409 --> 00:23:16,600 have spent some time around some 514 00:23:22,529 --> 00:23:19,419 indigenous peoples and studied sort of 515 00:23:25,169 --> 00:23:22,539 different philosophies and things like 516 00:23:27,090 --> 00:23:25,179 that helped kind of been kind of not you 517 00:23:29,070 --> 00:23:27,100 just we just kind of hang out together 518 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:29,080 it's almost like a telepathy thing or 519 00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:30,970 something we can like when I was in 520 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:33,520 Japan this monk came out of nowhere and 521 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:37,360 it was at this it was up a rock garden 522 00:23:42,210 --> 00:23:40,450 and so I I was there visiting and he was 523 00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:42,220 on the other side of the rock garden he 524 00:23:46,860 --> 00:23:44,110 walked around and he asked if I wanted 525 00:23:49,380 --> 00:23:46,870 to go with him up to the monastery that 526 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:49,390 I'd be the first guy gene the first 400 527 00:23:54,060 --> 00:23:52,450 500 years to be up there and so I asked 528 00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:54,070 the person that I was with I said you 529 00:23:59,279 --> 00:23:56,289 know I can i can buy maybe five days or 530 00:24:02,190 --> 00:23:59,289 five weeks five months but 500 years and 531 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:02,200 she said georgia son i speak really good 532 00:24:06,210 --> 00:24:04,090 english i write it even better so she 533 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:06,220 wrote it all out and she says this is a 534 00:24:14,090 --> 00:24:08,890 great honor you should go with him so 535 00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:14,100 that was my first um day off of 14 days 536 00:24:19,740 --> 00:24:16,990 because I was on tour and so I said up 537 00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:19,750 well I'm gonna go so i went i spent 14 538 00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:23,279 days of this guy up there in this um 539 00:24:31,260 --> 00:24:26,710 monastery really high above kyoto japan 540 00:24:32,820 --> 00:24:31,270 and when we were halfway there we went 541 00:24:34,980 --> 00:24:32,830 through some kind of a cave or something 542 00:24:36,750 --> 00:24:34,990 a tunnel I can feel that it was done he 543 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:36,760 blindfolded me and we walk through this 544 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:38,529 tunnel and pop out on the other side 545 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:40,570 somewhere and I could feel the Sun to 546 00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:43,090 heat the light and so he took my mask 547 00:24:47,399 --> 00:24:44,710 off and turned around I couldn't even 548 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:47,409 tell her we had been so we kept walking 549 00:24:51,299 --> 00:24:48,730 and I kept thinking gotta hope this is 550 00:24:55,049 --> 00:24:51,309 not some kind of ritual killing or 551 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:55,059 something so we keep walking and I see 552 00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:56,770 these monks running down these 553 00:25:02,070 --> 00:24:59,279 switchbacks way out in the distance and 554 00:25:03,570 --> 00:25:02,080 they finally caught up with us and they 555 00:25:06,090 --> 00:25:03,580 pulled him aside and said what are you 556 00:25:07,950 --> 00:25:06,100 doing you know and so he explained it in 557 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:07,960 whatever he explained to them and then 558 00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:10,450 so they took off ahead of them go back 559 00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:13,360 up the switchbacks and I just he told me 560 00:25:17,549 --> 00:25:15,039 to come with him so I just followed them 561 00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:17,559 we eventually got to the top and it was 562 00:25:22,780 --> 00:25:21,280 almost sunset you know standing on this 563 00:25:26,110 --> 00:25:22,790 cliff 564 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:26,120 and they had all these bowls are like 565 00:25:30,430 --> 00:25:29,210 little tubs of water and losses and it 566 00:25:32,590 --> 00:25:30,440 took all my clothes off I mean 567 00:25:36,340 --> 00:25:32,600 everything standing but naked on this 568 00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:36,350 clip and they're scrubbing the first and 569 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:38,480 second layer of my skin off oh why do 570 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:40,970 you were a piling it up on my shoulders 571 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:44,570 literally taking my skin off and they 572 00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:47,210 were scrubbing my hair and that they 573 00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:50,000 picked mighty to clean my ears they did 574 00:25:54,910 --> 00:25:53,030 all this stuff and they ran off with my 575 00:25:57,910 --> 00:25:54,920 clothes nothing I'm great now I'm just 576 00:26:00,970 --> 00:25:57,920 naked so they brought these robes and 577 00:26:03,010 --> 00:26:00,980 they put these robes on me and then took 578 00:26:05,530 --> 00:26:03,020 me into the monastery nobody could speak 579 00:26:07,570 --> 00:26:05,540 English whatsoever and I knew basic 580 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:07,580 Japanese like you know where's the 581 00:26:12,820 --> 00:26:10,370 restroom that kind of stuff so i went in 582 00:26:15,070 --> 00:26:12,830 and i stayed 14 days there and i did not 583 00:26:17,850 --> 00:26:15,080 hang out with any of the young month 584 00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:17,860 monks it was all the elders are very old 585 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:21,110 80's 90's you know those guys and I 586 00:26:26,590 --> 00:26:23,570 would join in with all of their prayers 587 00:26:28,090 --> 00:26:26,600 their meditations their rituals and it 588 00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:28,100 was like kind of in the beginning it was 589 00:26:31,660 --> 00:26:29,630 kind of like monkey see monkey do 590 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:31,670 because I didn't speak the language but 591 00:26:37,270 --> 00:26:34,250 this month that i was with we just had 592 00:26:39,070 --> 00:26:37,280 this direct sort of like contact with 593 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:39,080 each other and I and I knew what he was 594 00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:41,210 gonna do next and I I don't know I felt 595 00:26:46,450 --> 00:26:44,780 like I was home sort of speak so I got 596 00:26:49,390 --> 00:26:46,460 to do that I saw some amazing things 597 00:26:52,420 --> 00:26:49,400 during those 14 days and you know I was 598 00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:52,430 the only foreigner there um well now how 599 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:54,830 did that happen to how did you happen to 600 00:27:00,370 --> 00:26:58,490 be able to do that oh I was just um it 601 00:27:03,730 --> 00:27:00,380 was the first day of 14 days I had a 602 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:03,740 break for 14 days well I'm gonna look 603 00:27:08,170 --> 00:27:05,330 around that was from your tour right 604 00:27:10,510 --> 00:27:08,180 yeah while I was on tour yeah there's 14 605 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:10,520 days off and I said okay well I'm gonna 606 00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:13,760 go look around so that's what I did you 607 00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:15,950 mean so it really wasn't a planned thing 608 00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:18,980 you just go don't know then do this yeah 609 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:21,110 it's never planned when this happens to 610 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--> 00:32:43,530 you did you want to carry on us oh ok 682 00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:46,440 well one of the things I wanted to ask 683 00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:48,960 you about was because I wasn't really 684 00:32:55,660 --> 00:32:52,350 familiar with the fact that you uh you 685 00:32:59,270 --> 00:32:55,670 know we're able to make predictions and 686 00:33:01,130 --> 00:32:59,280 was really aware of your work with the 687 00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:01,140 other side in connecting people with 688 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:02,910 their loved ones and that sort of thing 689 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:06,530 so it's really interesting i'm wondering 690 00:33:13,070 --> 00:33:10,650 you had those now how did you receive 691 00:33:15,260 --> 00:33:13,080 those messages like for instance with 692 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:15,270 the World Trade Center and in those 693 00:33:20,270 --> 00:33:17,010 other things the computer that you 694 00:33:23,180 --> 00:33:20,280 foresaw was that people from the other 695 00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:23,190 side telling you these things or did you 696 00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:25,200 just sort of know them through some sort 697 00:33:33,140 --> 00:33:29,580 of gnosis well with osmosis yeah when I 698 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:33,150 when I put pencil to paper I just 699 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:35,010 started seeing images I don't know who 700 00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:37,050 it came from or where it came from I 701 00:33:41,870 --> 00:33:38,640 just saw these images and I could feel 702 00:33:43,820 --> 00:33:41,880 them you know the these things that I 703 00:33:46,220 --> 00:33:43,830 was drawing and I just stopped guided to 704 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:46,230 do it I didn't see any particular person 705 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:49,410 or you know anything like that it just 706 00:33:52,940 --> 00:33:51,450 hearted coming out and I'm kind of just 707 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:52,950 watching myself I mean I'm actually 708 00:33:57,500 --> 00:33:54,570 spelling the words out and drawing the 709 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:57,510 pictures and doing all of this but it's 710 00:34:01,610 --> 00:33:59,010 like everything else kind of disappears 711 00:34:04,220 --> 00:34:01,620 in the room for a moment and this 712 00:34:06,620 --> 00:34:04,230 information comes out like real fast it 713 00:34:09,410 --> 00:34:06,630 just lays out real quick and then it's 714 00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:09,420 over and and I just don't know where it 715 00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:12,860 comes from it just happens exactly so 716 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:19,740 Wow now so you got you sort of got that 717 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:21,930 you know information in that way and 718 00:34:25,870 --> 00:34:24,240 then when people when you started 719 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:25,880 connecting with people on the other side 720 00:34:32,030 --> 00:34:30,290 how did that happen did you just sort of 721 00:34:34,820 --> 00:34:32,040 realize that there were always people 722 00:34:38,090 --> 00:34:34,830 around you that I didn't seem to be able 723 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:38,100 to see right exactly you know it's like 724 00:34:41,899 --> 00:34:40,530 these days in my life 725 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:41,909 was been like this for a long time but 726 00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:46,290 people I'll be asleep and I'll just wake 727 00:34:50,330 --> 00:34:47,760 up and there's somebody standing next to 728 00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:50,340 the bed but I'm so used to right now 729 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:54,030 that I'll see them and they just like 730 00:34:57,020 --> 00:34:55,770 give you a knowing it's like they don't 731 00:34:59,330 --> 00:34:57,030 say anything just kind of give you a 732 00:35:01,130 --> 00:34:59,340 million sex like a split second and you 733 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:01,140 know everything about them but I usually 734 00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:03,450 go not now I'm trying to sleep and I'll 735 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:07,140 just roll over and sometimes if somebody 736 00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:08,850 who's been in a car accident or somebody 737 00:35:12,830 --> 00:35:10,590 who's been burned up in a fire it looks 738 00:35:14,510 --> 00:35:12,840 kind of you know scary but I know what 739 00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:14,520 they are so they're they're not there to 740 00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:16,710 harm me or not there to scare me but 741 00:35:21,980 --> 00:35:19,040 they're there to let me know that 742 00:35:24,110 --> 00:35:21,990 somebody is coming that's a relative of 743 00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:24,120 theirs that I haven't met yet that's 744 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:26,160 going to get a hold of me and I will 745 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:29,490 make the connection and so I do you what 746 00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:31,650 do you see them in there you know sort 747 00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:34,710 of worse state like how they died is 748 00:35:38,990 --> 00:35:37,140 that because something can identify them 749 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:39,000 yeah sometimes it's like unfinished 750 00:35:43,580 --> 00:35:41,250 business you know say if they were 751 00:35:45,830 --> 00:35:43,590 murdered or something like that those 752 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:45,840 show me how they looked when they died 753 00:35:50,180 --> 00:35:47,850 or sometimes will show me how they look 754 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:50,190 now but they give me all this 755 00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:53,370 information through visuals and feeling 756 00:35:57,950 --> 00:35:56,460 and sometimes they kind of get into me a 757 00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:57,960 little bit they make me feel what they 758 00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:00,960 died of I mean it goes on and on and on 759 00:36:03,860 --> 00:36:02,220 that's why it's kind of a double-edged 760 00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:03,870 sword I'm helping people but it kind of 761 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:06,480 takes a lot out of me you know so I 762 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:08,310 gotta protect myself and just telling me 763 00:36:12,020 --> 00:36:10,530 you can't get in my body all you can do 764 00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:12,030 is deliver your message and I'll pass it 765 00:36:17,060 --> 00:36:14,700 on and so they show me these things I'm 766 00:36:20,030 --> 00:36:17,070 just like a pipe and things flow through 767 00:36:21,590 --> 00:36:20,040 me and but lots of times people will 768 00:36:24,110 --> 00:36:21,600 call me and those make an appointment 769 00:36:26,060 --> 00:36:24,120 they'll come and see me and in the 770 00:36:27,770 --> 00:36:26,070 reading that person will come back and I 771 00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:27,780 go oh you know what this person's been 772 00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:30,150 here before before I met you so 773 00:36:34,850 --> 00:36:31,830 sometimes I get things in advance like 774 00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:34,860 that mm-hmm so it just comes all 775 00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:38,910 different ways and also well no nothing 776 00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:40,950 nothing harmful though I never get 777 00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:42,720 anything that's I feel like I'm protect 778 00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:44,670 it all the time you know and I'm going 779 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:47,280 grateful for that and I try to be trying 780 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:50,090 to live in integrity and be extremely 781 00:36:54,109 --> 00:36:53,010 honest and to the point about all this 782 00:36:56,329 --> 00:36:54,119 stuff because 783 00:36:59,299 --> 00:36:56,339 I just feel if you're not they can take 784 00:37:01,579 --> 00:36:59,309 it away from you so I'll shut you down 785 00:37:04,849 --> 00:37:01,589 close that door you know you know I've 786 00:37:08,930 --> 00:37:04,859 had experiences sometimes with people 787 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:08,940 who I get people had some real abilities 788 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:11,490 right but it would seem like at some 789 00:37:17,690 --> 00:37:14,730 point you know maybe they got a little 790 00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:17,700 bit in their ego and I'm sure you must 791 00:37:23,420 --> 00:37:20,640 have the experience of people wanting to 792 00:37:26,509 --> 00:37:23,430 know you and wanting to be around you 793 00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:26,519 because of what you do in what you're 794 00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:28,980 always asking me can you teach me can 795 00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:30,359 you teach me this can you teach me this 796 00:37:35,269 --> 00:37:32,190 that's it no you're just born with it 797 00:37:38,620 --> 00:37:35,279 you know mediums are Gorn that made you 798 00:37:41,029 --> 00:37:38,630 know so that's a the only the only 799 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,039 exception is sometimes people have 800 00:37:46,549 --> 00:37:43,440 near-death experiences ok and this 801 00:37:48,829 --> 00:37:46,559 themselves on the operating table you 802 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:48,839 know from up above or in a car wreck and 803 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:50,130 you see themselves but they've been 804 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:53,970 revived sometimes they have a stronger 805 00:37:58,729 --> 00:37:56,730 connection now with the other side and 806 00:38:01,339 --> 00:37:58,739 that'll help them but that's pretty much 807 00:38:04,789 --> 00:38:01,349 the exception you know that's how 808 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:04,799 they'll be seen it but people always you 809 00:38:08,779 --> 00:38:06,210 know they always ask me please teach me 810 00:38:14,089 --> 00:38:08,789 how to do this yeah so there's no hope 811 00:38:18,190 --> 00:38:14,099 than for me giorno unnecessarily the way 812 00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:18,200 I see it is psychics perceive and 813 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:22,049 mediums received so that's the 814 00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:23,700 difference psychics are extremely 815 00:38:28,249 --> 00:38:26,640 different from mediums you can't be a 816 00:38:30,799 --> 00:38:28,259 medium without being a psychic first 817 00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:30,809 right psychics usually use their tools 818 00:38:35,150 --> 00:38:33,089 or a tarot cards you know pendulums 819 00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:35,160 whatever they use and then they use 820 00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:39,089 their arm intuition on top of that and 821 00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:41,220 sometimes they're able to skirt the edge 822 00:38:46,940 --> 00:38:44,700 of mediumship and get up maybe a hit 823 00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,950 here and there you know I need so and 824 00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:48,480 the more you do it the better you get at 825 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:51,200 it you know you do that but a real solid 826 00:38:56,329 --> 00:38:53,970 person who talks to the dead is really 827 00:38:58,910 --> 00:38:56,339 not in the they're just different from 828 00:39:02,539 --> 00:38:58,920 psychics seconds use tools mediums don't 829 00:39:04,460 --> 00:39:02,549 now if like I've never used a tool my 830 00:39:06,019 --> 00:39:04,470 whole life I've never had to use tarot 831 00:39:07,610 --> 00:39:06,029 cards are beautiful and I think they're 832 00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:07,620 great and all the other will 833 00:39:14,930 --> 00:39:10,380 but I just don't have to use them never 834 00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:14,940 had to um that's good now have you you 835 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:16,500 know you talked to a lot of people on 836 00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:20,730 the other side and uh I would imagine 837 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:23,400 you've learned a bit about the other 838 00:39:31,690 --> 00:39:27,450 side yes from them and have you ever 839 00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:31,700 used that to help somebody crossover 840 00:39:37,010 --> 00:39:34,440 absolutely and absolutely can get 841 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:37,020 jealous about that yeah there was this 842 00:39:42,110 --> 00:39:39,930 team of paranormal investigators and 843 00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:42,120 invited me along I never met them before 844 00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:45,270 and they we went to this house that they 845 00:39:50,590 --> 00:39:46,980 had been there dad been there before so 846 00:39:52,940 --> 00:39:50,600 they took me and they had a thing called 847 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:52,950 it's like a little ghost box it's a 848 00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:56,370 little too called Ovilus they had a 849 00:40:02,420 --> 00:39:58,890 novelist and it's got like it's a it's a 850 00:40:04,670 --> 00:40:02,430 word it's a phonetic word generator so 851 00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:04,680 souls can use it so I saw it and I was 852 00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:06,180 kind of suspicious of it I thought what 853 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:07,920 is this you know recordings inside or 854 00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:09,690 something so you know I checked it out 855 00:40:17,330 --> 00:40:13,020 they turned it on and this guy comes 856 00:40:19,310 --> 00:40:17,340 across as Howard yeah um and they said 857 00:40:21,740 --> 00:40:19,320 oh hi Howard how you doing because they 858 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:21,750 were used to him and but they didn't 859 00:40:26,330 --> 00:40:23,250 know anything about him you just the 860 00:40:29,210 --> 00:40:26,340 only said Howard so this time he says 861 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:29,220 hat and I was wearing a hat that day I 862 00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:31,770 was the only one wearing a half and it 863 00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:34,560 was at night and all the powers off on 864 00:40:40,460 --> 00:40:36,030 the place you know you have to do it 865 00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:40,470 that way so he says Howard and he says 866 00:40:45,890 --> 00:40:42,750 hat and they said you're talking to you 867 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:45,900 George and I said oh hi Howard and he 868 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:50,730 says affirmative I said okay so then he 869 00:40:55,850 --> 00:40:53,040 basically he was a soldier that was in 870 00:40:57,740 --> 00:40:55,860 Vietnam and he was flying he would fly 871 00:40:59,660 --> 00:40:57,750 in and drop the napalm and all that to 872 00:41:02,750 --> 00:40:59,670 get our guys out of there you know and 873 00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:02,760 blow everything up what he died on that 874 00:41:07,850 --> 00:41:05,310 so he gave me his full name and he gave 875 00:41:09,110 --> 00:41:07,860 me his rank and they went and looked and 876 00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:09,120 look on a computer some place on a 877 00:41:13,010 --> 00:41:11,400 laptop sure enough man there he was 878 00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:13,020 there was this picture there is this who 879 00:41:18,860 --> 00:41:15,510 he was the whole nine yards but he was 880 00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:18,870 stuck his son died in that house of food 881 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:21,440 poisoning and then he ended up dying 882 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:22,490 in the house because he was like 883 00:41:28,930 --> 00:41:24,530 brokenhearted he kind of just all apart 884 00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:28,940 and drank himself to death and so he was 885 00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:31,250 stuck in that house and I said I want 886 00:41:35,950 --> 00:41:33,380 you to go to the light now I've got like 887 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:35,960 13 people in this room watching this and 888 00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:39,290 listening to this I said go to the light 889 00:41:45,730 --> 00:41:42,470 and he says hard as a try he goes hard 890 00:41:47,890 --> 00:41:45,740 that's it ok let's look for it so I'm 891 00:41:51,010 --> 00:41:47,900 concentrating and then I hear a dog 892 00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:51,020 barking and I said this is your dog 893 00:41:56,829 --> 00:41:53,839 barking head towards the sound he says 894 00:41:58,839 --> 00:41:56,839 hard I said try so we kept way back and 895 00:42:01,599 --> 00:41:58,849 forth like that and this is hard to move 896 00:42:03,339 --> 00:42:01,609 so then he's heard I heard the dog 897 00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:03,349 getting louder and I can see in my 898 00:42:07,630 --> 00:42:05,569 mind's eye this guy trying to get 899 00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:07,640 through this darkness to find this dog 900 00:42:13,059 --> 00:42:10,640 and then I said go to the light and he 901 00:42:15,069 --> 00:42:13,069 couldn't find it kept saying hard I said 902 00:42:17,950 --> 00:42:15,079 keep trying then all of a sudden he said 903 00:42:21,490 --> 00:42:17,960 glow I said that's it head for the glow 904 00:42:23,770 --> 00:42:21,500 and so in my mind's eye I was trying to 905 00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:23,780 get way ahead of the column towards the 906 00:42:28,930 --> 00:42:25,910 glow bright when I saw these people 907 00:42:31,569 --> 00:42:28,940 standing there I saw this dog um like 908 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:31,579 two sisters a mom and a dad and they 909 00:42:35,170 --> 00:42:33,890 were standing there um and you wouldn't 910 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:35,180 come into the dark they stealing the 911 00:42:40,089 --> 00:42:37,130 light but it looked like a sunrise and 912 00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:40,099 so he saw it and I kept saying keep 913 00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:43,849 trying and he goes uh affirmative and so 914 00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:45,680 he kept trying to go kept trying to go 915 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:48,710 and I said I you there yet I said go to 916 00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:49,970 them and I could hear the dog barking 917 00:42:59,950 --> 00:42:54,640 louder and louder and so he keeps going 918 00:43:02,349 --> 00:42:59,960 finally he says mother and I just sit 919 00:43:04,450 --> 00:43:02,359 him fit for your mom go to your mom go 920 00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:04,460 to your dog and your family keep going 921 00:43:11,319 --> 00:43:07,430 and he says better he kept saying bitter 922 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:11,329 bitter and I said just go there and they 923 00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:16,010 says home he says I am home and I said 924 00:43:21,930 --> 00:43:18,950 great I said good and everybody in that 925 00:43:24,130 --> 00:43:21,940 room was crying they're all crying and 926 00:43:27,569 --> 00:43:24,140 because this guy had been suffering for 927 00:43:30,359 --> 00:43:27,579 a long time he died in 67 s when he died 928 00:43:32,770 --> 00:43:30,369 1957 so he made it into the light 929 00:43:34,810 --> 00:43:32,780 everybody in that room opened before he 930 00:43:38,260 --> 00:43:34,820 went he says 931 00:43:41,830 --> 00:43:38,270 George we called my main oh my gosh and 932 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:41,840 he says Stan so I stood up and he's and 933 00:43:47,020 --> 00:43:44,570 I said up uh hey listen you can't get in 934 00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:47,030 me but you can talk to me okay you can't 935 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:48,800 be inside of me because I kept feeling 936 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:51,770 this cool cool swirl in my chest and 937 00:43:55,690 --> 00:43:53,690 that's how they do it sometimes mmm and 938 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:55,700 you know how you drop a little drop of 939 00:44:00,100 --> 00:43:57,890 like food coloring and water and it kind 940 00:44:01,780 --> 00:44:00,110 of swirls yeah that's kind of what it 941 00:44:05,020 --> 00:44:01,790 feels like inside your body and it's 942 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:05,030 very very cold and so one of the 943 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:07,970 researchers in the group they had all 944 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:10,370 these devices all over the place one of 945 00:44:15,730 --> 00:44:12,970 them Chuck bought my chest with a 946 00:44:17,530 --> 00:44:15,740 temperature gun and it was at 32 because 947 00:44:21,070 --> 00:44:17,540 we could see my breath and it's like 948 00:44:23,740 --> 00:44:21,080 boiling hot in this place and I said 949 00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:23,750 well it can't be 32 I'd be frozen it's 950 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:26,000 the atmosphere in front of me someplace 951 00:44:34,270 --> 00:44:28,970 and that's that temperature mm-hmm and 952 00:44:38,610 --> 00:44:34,280 uh this guy Howard he says George he 953 00:44:41,980 --> 00:44:38,620 goes friend and he goes up thank you and 954 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:41,990 so on and then one of these k2 meters 955 00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:44,810 slid across the table right up to my 956 00:44:49,540 --> 00:44:47,510 crotch basically and it lit up just 957 00:44:53,140 --> 00:44:49,550 fanned all the way at brightest could be 958 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:53,150 and my right arm my sleeve started going 959 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:54,530 up my arm and there was a guy sitting 960 00:45:00,730 --> 00:44:57,770 next to me he saw that he got up and he 961 00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:00,740 walked around inside of the table and I 962 00:45:06,250 --> 00:45:02,720 said it's just it's just him he's just 963 00:45:10,060 --> 00:45:06,260 you know and so after that was over I 964 00:45:12,820 --> 00:45:10,070 said are you still there and nothing I 965 00:45:14,650 --> 00:45:12,830 said are you still there Howard nothing 966 00:45:18,490 --> 00:45:14,660 so he made it he made it into the light 967 00:45:21,310 --> 00:45:18,500 family so that's amazing yeah so these 968 00:45:24,820 --> 00:45:21,320 people all witnessed is and it was very 969 00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:24,830 emotional and very up sensitive but you 970 00:45:28,330 --> 00:45:26,510 know I mean I was like falling apart I 971 00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:28,340 really fell apart after that felt good 972 00:45:34,750 --> 00:45:31,730 for him you know yeah absolutely but you 973 00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:34,760 can help souls cross over when they're 974 00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:37,280 stuck you just you know yet to get the 975 00:45:43,930 --> 00:45:40,400 try and and and they'll do it a little 976 00:45:47,620 --> 00:45:43,940 effort they'll do it that is that is 977 00:45:48,819 --> 00:45:47,630 wild now before we get too much further 978 00:45:50,410 --> 00:45:48,829 along I did 979 00:45:53,769 --> 00:45:50,420 want to tell people how to get hold of 980 00:45:56,049 --> 00:45:53,779 you George because you do readings in 981 00:45:59,079 --> 00:45:56,059 person and you also do them over the 982 00:46:02,529 --> 00:45:59,089 phone or skype right over the phone 983 00:46:07,420 --> 00:46:02,539 robot line well refine and your website 984 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:07,430 is crystal gate readings calm and you 985 00:46:11,890 --> 00:46:08,930 can go there and you can see a little 986 00:46:14,109 --> 00:46:11,900 bit about George on there and you can 987 00:46:17,009 --> 00:46:14,119 see about making an appointment and all 988 00:46:22,029 --> 00:46:17,019 that good stuff is there a long wait to 989 00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,039 to get about three years out what yeah I 990 00:46:25,959 --> 00:46:24,079 got about three years three years they 991 00:46:27,789 --> 00:46:25,969 had any people waiting but there's holes 992 00:46:29,859 --> 00:46:27,799 all over the place or try I mean you 993 00:46:32,049 --> 00:46:29,869 want to see or talk to him on the phone 994 00:46:34,269 --> 00:46:32,059 just give me a call I'll make it work 995 00:46:37,180 --> 00:46:34,279 somehow yeah oh my goodness gracious 996 00:46:40,769 --> 00:46:37,190 that's crazy you know I guess if it's 997 00:46:43,329 --> 00:46:40,779 meant to be it'll happen huh yeah 998 00:46:46,690 --> 00:46:43,339 Mother's Day just passed mother's day I 999 00:46:50,709 --> 00:46:46,700 started the day before I think it was at 1000 00:46:54,849 --> 00:46:50,719 7am and I went till 7am Mother's Day 1001 00:46:56,650 --> 00:46:54,859 morning it was it was a long haul yet oh 1002 00:46:59,140 --> 00:46:56,660 my gosh they musta carried you out on a 1003 00:47:02,019 --> 00:46:59,150 stretcher after that yeah once I'm in 1004 00:47:04,209 --> 00:47:02,029 the flow I'm good and I'll just take one 1005 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:04,219 phone call I talk I talk to this one guy 1006 00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:05,690 who was on an oil rig in the Black Sea 1007 00:47:11,229 --> 00:47:07,910 who was missing his mother a whole bunch 1008 00:47:13,150 --> 00:47:11,239 and I talked to him and people in Guam a 1009 00:47:16,809 --> 00:47:13,160 lot of people from Dubai call me and 1010 00:47:20,140 --> 00:47:16,819 they used translators I mean so I will 1011 00:47:22,660 --> 00:47:20,150 talk to them and Guam you know I talked 1012 00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:22,670 to CEOs I talked to three kings already 1013 00:47:27,969 --> 00:47:24,609 and I talk to you for bishops from the 1014 00:47:30,459 --> 00:47:27,979 Vatican I also which is really in like 1015 00:47:31,809 --> 00:47:30,469 really unusual but I also go under 1016 00:47:33,729 --> 00:47:31,819 bridges and talk to people that are 1017 00:47:37,449 --> 00:47:33,739 homeless you know it doesn't matter to 1018 00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:37,459 me so I wasn't how to do what I can do 1019 00:47:44,229 --> 00:47:39,920 yeah absolutely well that's that's 1020 00:47:46,089 --> 00:47:44,239 amazing stuff I tell you now if I could 1021 00:47:49,150 --> 00:47:46,099 just throw a quick question to your 1022 00:47:51,759 --> 00:47:49,160 pivot a chat room there wants to know if 1023 00:47:56,109 --> 00:47:51,769 you have a spirit guide sounds like you 1024 00:47:58,930 --> 00:47:56,119 have a lot of them yeah you know that's 1025 00:48:02,680 --> 00:47:58,940 a great question and lots of times the 1026 00:48:05,950 --> 00:48:02,690 way I see it i know i do but i don't see 1027 00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:05,960 myself I don't see I feel them around me 1028 00:48:12,550 --> 00:48:08,089 if you know what I did was like seeing 1029 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:12,560 your feelings um but I do know this when 1030 00:48:16,450 --> 00:48:14,690 other people come to me and they go evil 1031 00:48:18,609 --> 00:48:16,460 who's my spirit guide and who's this and 1032 00:48:20,410 --> 00:48:18,619 with my angel and all this stuff you 1033 00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:20,420 know I look into it and have noticed 1034 00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:23,510 that Souls everyone has Souls around 1035 00:48:27,339 --> 00:48:25,310 them and they're usually family members 1036 00:48:29,170 --> 00:48:27,349 and sometimes they give you what you can 1037 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:29,180 handle or they'll give it to you in a 1038 00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:32,569 way that uh you'll listen to them so 1039 00:48:38,859 --> 00:48:36,230 they might come as a monk guide or an 1040 00:48:40,809 --> 00:48:38,869 Indian standing on a rock who is a guide 1041 00:48:43,690 --> 00:48:40,819 but it's actually your Uncle Frank and 1042 00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:43,700 your grandmother you know because that 1043 00:48:49,059 --> 00:48:46,880 way also stars sometimes will imagine 1044 00:48:52,450 --> 00:48:49,069 like Brad Pitt or someone like that and 1045 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:52,460 and they can understand why he came to 1046 00:49:00,220 --> 00:48:55,490 them you know and so they're delivering 1047 00:49:02,890 --> 00:49:00,230 messages to these people who don't 1048 00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,900 listen to you know I mean so you if it's 1049 00:49:06,250 --> 00:49:04,640 like an Indian chief or leg Glenn wow 1050 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:06,260 that's going to be duty but it's 1051 00:49:11,470 --> 00:49:08,690 actually a grandfather posing as an 1052 00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:11,480 Indian chief and they give them all this 1053 00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:13,520 information the only reason why no this 1054 00:49:19,180 --> 00:49:15,440 is because sometimes they'll come in 1055 00:49:20,670 --> 00:49:19,190 that way and and I'll just ask in my 1056 00:49:24,250 --> 00:49:20,680 mind you know who are you really 1057 00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:24,260 Kendall's a grandfather and so okay so 1058 00:49:28,990 --> 00:49:27,200 and they'll give me like usually people 1059 00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:29,000 that were in the service I started 1060 00:49:34,740 --> 00:49:31,849 seeing flags flying and when I see that 1061 00:49:37,089 --> 00:49:34,750 I know that there's service military um 1062 00:49:38,410 --> 00:49:37,099 all kinds of different signs and symbols 1063 00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:38,420 I've been doing it so long that there's 1064 00:49:43,690 --> 00:49:41,780 like these they kind of give me the the 1065 00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:43,700 signs occasionally that I can know right 1066 00:49:49,210 --> 00:49:47,839 away where it's going AC in my mind went 1067 00:49:51,730 --> 00:49:49,220 out with someone sitting in front of me 1068 00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:51,740 I fire off all these questions in my 1069 00:49:56,890 --> 00:49:53,839 head I don't tell the client this but 1070 00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:56,900 I'll say you know i'll ask give me a 1071 00:50:01,960 --> 00:49:59,210 phone number give me an address give me 1072 00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:01,970 something that will validate who you are 1073 00:50:06,910 --> 00:50:03,920 that this person will know who you are 1074 00:50:08,349 --> 00:50:06,920 so that's how i do it and then 1075 00:50:09,790 --> 00:50:08,359 eventually they start coming in with 1076 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:09,800 pictures they only give you what you can 1077 00:50:14,829 --> 00:50:11,690 handle so they give you pictures of 1078 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:14,839 events things that are very abstract 1079 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:16,290 sometimes and so I 1080 00:50:21,230 --> 00:50:18,690 try to like deliver the mail not read it 1081 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:21,240 so I'll give it to him straight and 1082 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:23,370 they'll go I know exactly what that is 1083 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:25,170 I'll get okay well this is what they're 1084 00:50:33,130 --> 00:50:27,930 saying and so that's how my messages 1085 00:50:36,050 --> 00:50:33,140 come across like that um and so do you 1086 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:36,060 is it going on all the time I mean like 1087 00:50:40,550 --> 00:50:38,610 right now is something going on in our 1088 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:40,560 people is there any you know anything 1089 00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:44,610 that's you know someone's wanting to say 1090 00:50:51,230 --> 00:50:48,000 or do you are you able to just focus on 1091 00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:51,240 what you're doing and only get those 1092 00:50:55,460 --> 00:50:53,940 when you invite that in yeah if you're 1093 00:50:57,050 --> 00:50:55,470 asking me can i turn it off yeah I can 1094 00:51:00,680 --> 00:50:57,060 turn it off yeah and just have a regular 1095 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:00,690 conversation with people um sometimes 1096 00:51:05,060 --> 00:51:02,970 depending on how tired I am you know if 1097 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:05,070 I if I go into public like a grocery 1098 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:07,130 store or something I start picking up 1099 00:51:11,420 --> 00:51:09,570 things right away so I try to like to 1100 00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:11,430 turn that off and have it a regular life 1101 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:14,160 you know it's kind of hard sometimes now 1102 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:16,650 when you say it depends on how tired you 1103 00:51:22,460 --> 00:51:19,890 are the more tired you are the more 1104 00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:22,470 they're able to get in or well no I get 1105 00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:24,510 lazy about protecting myself from it or 1106 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:28,800 tripping wrong I mean and so if i'm 1107 00:51:32,930 --> 00:51:30,810 tired and i sit down like on a park 1108 00:51:34,250 --> 00:51:32,940 bench to somebody walks by you know I 1109 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:34,260 might have my eyes closed for a moment 1110 00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:36,450 and I just see who's walking next to 1111 00:51:41,210 --> 00:51:39,510 them and then see I don't people that 1112 00:51:42,770 --> 00:51:41,220 walk up to you to say hey listen I see 1113 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:42,780 your you know blah blah blah I think 1114 00:51:46,370 --> 00:51:44,970 that I call that attack readings I think 1115 00:51:48,890 --> 00:51:46,380 that that's really not a good thing to 1116 00:51:52,490 --> 00:51:48,900 do it's kind of disrespectful to that 1117 00:51:54,410 --> 00:51:52,500 person unless they really want to get 1118 00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:54,420 ahold of that person and don't let you 1119 00:51:58,310 --> 00:51:56,220 know if they really want to get a hold 1120 00:52:01,550 --> 00:51:58,320 that person walking by don't tell you 1121 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:01,560 say this or do that and you'll get their 1122 00:52:07,490 --> 00:52:04,530 attention and uh and then you can start 1123 00:52:10,940 --> 00:52:07,500 from there and kind of break it in for 1124 00:52:12,650 --> 00:52:10,950 instance I was at a video store and I 1125 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:12,660 was in the aisle looking now standing up 1126 00:52:16,460 --> 00:52:14,130 looking for videos and there was 1127 00:52:18,890 --> 00:52:16,470 somebody crouched down halfway down the 1128 00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:18,900 aisle looking for videos and I didn't 1129 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:20,250 know if there were a man or a woman dad 1130 00:52:27,860 --> 00:52:22,290 they're all in black and they were like 1131 00:52:29,690 --> 00:52:27,870 rifling through the dvds and I saw this 1132 00:52:31,490 --> 00:52:29,700 man standing behind 1133 00:52:34,460 --> 00:52:31,500 this person that was crouched down and 1134 00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:34,470 this guy had a really pronounced round 1135 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:37,440 belly and he had jeans on and like boots 1136 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:39,570 and he had this black t-shirt on with a 1137 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:42,690 partially I'll showed a tattoo kind of 1138 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:44,130 sticking out of his arm and he had like 1139 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:46,770 Elvis hair you know greased back pulled 1140 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:49,170 out in the front and he had his hand 1141 00:52:54,530 --> 00:52:51,810 over this person's head and he was like 1142 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:54,540 stroking her hair but I could see light 1143 00:53:00,320 --> 00:52:57,810 between her his hand I'm in his hand and 1144 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:00,330 her hair his forehead I can see this 1145 00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:02,370 light coming out of his hand and he was 1146 00:53:06,860 --> 00:53:05,280 stroking her hair and so it was like a 1147 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:06,870 split second but it happens really fast 1148 00:53:11,420 --> 00:53:09,810 but you'd get it all very quickly uh so 1149 00:53:13,310 --> 00:53:11,430 then I just kind of walked over i said 1150 00:53:15,170 --> 00:53:13,320 hey there was a guy standing behind you 1151 00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:15,180 and she stood up and she was like you 1152 00:53:18,980 --> 00:53:16,800 know three inches taller than I was and 1153 00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:18,990 twice my weight I'm gonna go in oh my 1154 00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:21,510 god don't hurt me yeah and so I just 1155 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:22,800 said there's a there's a guy standing 1156 00:53:29,420 --> 00:53:26,370 behind you and she looked around where I 1157 00:53:31,550 --> 00:53:29,430 said well he look like this and so I 1158 00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:31,560 told her what I had seen he started 1159 00:53:38,780 --> 00:53:35,250 crying she was that was her dad and he 1160 00:53:41,540 --> 00:53:38,790 had died two years ago the the two that 1161 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:41,550 he had come over to her apartment and he 1162 00:53:46,220 --> 00:53:44,130 was really angry with her um and they 1163 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:46,230 got into this big big fight and he left 1164 00:53:51,290 --> 00:53:49,410 and he died two hours later Oh of a 1165 00:53:55,070 --> 00:53:51,300 heart attack so she held all this guilt 1166 00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:55,080 so she said What did he say I said he 1167 00:54:00,020 --> 00:53:56,910 said to take the foil off the windows 1168 00:54:02,750 --> 00:54:00,030 get your computer fixed I said is this 1169 00:54:04,670 --> 00:54:02,760 true and she says absolutely and I said 1170 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:04,680 aces clean up your clean up your 1171 00:54:11,740 --> 00:54:07,290 apartment wash your dishes fix yourself 1172 00:54:15,380 --> 00:54:11,750 up you know get back to work and only 1173 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:15,390 said that was not your fault I'm sorry 1174 00:54:22,610 --> 00:54:18,210 we had that fight and I'm sorry that I 1175 00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:22,620 left you vulnerable and but it's not 1176 00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:26,730 your fault all is forgiven so wow you 1177 00:54:31,610 --> 00:54:29,280 know that was his message to her and so 1178 00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:31,620 she's crying in the aisle and the 1179 00:54:37,220 --> 00:54:33,510 manager comes over and says is this man 1180 00:54:40,070 --> 00:54:37,230 bothering you and and she gave me a hug 1181 00:54:43,230 --> 00:54:40,080 no no it's okay it's okay you know so 1182 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:43,240 but anyway yes that's the only time I 1183 00:54:49,550 --> 00:54:44,530 do something like that if it was that 1184 00:54:54,030 --> 00:54:49,560 obvious you know now what about any time 1185 00:54:59,280 --> 00:54:54,040 has it happened where someone knew that 1186 00:55:02,790 --> 00:54:59,290 they were going to die eminently and ask 1187 00:55:06,060 --> 00:55:02,800 you to connect with them with someone 1188 00:55:08,180 --> 00:55:06,070 that might be waiting for them or you 1189 00:55:11,420 --> 00:55:08,190 know yet you to describe what they were 1190 00:55:13,950 --> 00:55:11,430 going to be experiencing yeah absolutely 1191 00:55:15,540 --> 00:55:13,960 tiny about this musician Reiner in 1192 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:15,550 Tucson he came to me with that whole 1193 00:55:21,450 --> 00:55:18,730 thing um so I told him you know what I 1194 00:55:23,310 --> 00:55:21,460 saw and the guy gave me a hug and a kiss 1195 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:23,320 and he says thank you so much he died 1196 00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:27,130 the next day would it please Talan I 1197 00:55:31,350 --> 00:55:29,680 just said listen you know it's gonna be 1198 00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:31,360 alright yeah so you're gonna close your 1199 00:55:35,580 --> 00:55:33,250 eyes I told him who was waiting for him 1200 00:55:37,530 --> 00:55:35,590 and there was some relatives it is I 1201 00:55:39,150 --> 00:55:37,540 never met the guy and he was from my 1202 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:39,160 Czechoslovakia or somewhere like that 1203 00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:42,610 and when I told him the names and I just 1204 00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:45,280 said they're waiting for you and don't 1205 00:55:50,790 --> 00:55:47,200 worry it's gonna be okay you know you're 1206 00:55:53,099 --> 00:55:50,800 not gonna suffer and and he gave me a 1207 00:55:55,650 --> 00:55:53,109 kiss insist thank you so much and and I 1208 00:55:57,030 --> 00:55:55,660 left that was it you know I thought he 1209 00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:57,040 was going to ask me to record with him 1210 00:56:01,410 --> 00:55:58,720 because he was like a big shot recording 1211 00:56:02,670 --> 00:56:01,420 artist but totally quiet here in the 1212 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:02,680 States because this is where he was 1213 00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:04,570 taking kind of like refuge and wanted to 1214 00:56:09,810 --> 00:56:07,359 be normal you know but he would sell out 1215 00:56:13,650 --> 00:56:09,820 soccer stadiums in Europe you know he 1216 00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:13,660 was a big shot there musician um a blues 1217 00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:16,240 player he played a dobro and he played 1218 00:56:23,250 --> 00:56:18,670 the blues and anyway I was a really 1219 00:56:24,810 --> 00:56:23,260 interesting guy Wow yeah and so they had 1220 00:56:26,820 --> 00:56:24,820 all kinds of memorials but for him 1221 00:56:29,099 --> 00:56:26,830 around town and there's this big big 1222 00:56:30,510 --> 00:56:29,109 nightclub where they did this big thing 1223 00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:30,520 his band was up there they're called 1224 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:33,040 giant sand and they were up on stage and 1225 00:56:37,410 --> 00:56:35,170 they were rocking the place and you know 1226 00:56:41,310 --> 00:56:37,420 they had they had his guitar on them on 1227 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:41,320 a on a chair full of flowers around it 1228 00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:44,410 and I was getting ready to leave just 1229 00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:46,510 lying down the block you know to get in 1230 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:48,640 to do this thing so I was getting ready 1231 00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:50,650 to walk out the door and then I heard my 1232 00:56:55,290 --> 00:56:52,600 name being called from the PA so I went 1233 00:56:56,300 --> 00:56:55,300 back in and one of the musicians had 1234 00:56:58,550 --> 00:56:56,310 pulled up 1235 00:57:00,740 --> 00:56:58,560 paper audit is sharp mrs. Rheiner one me 1236 00:57:02,660 --> 00:57:00,750 to sit in with them and play a couple of 1237 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:02,670 numbers so i did so i got up there and 1238 00:57:09,740 --> 00:57:05,850 played with all of them wow man that was 1239 00:57:12,530 --> 00:57:09,750 very sweet um but yeah it's just I don't 1240 00:57:14,540 --> 00:57:12,540 know that's why I was just how it is 1241 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:14,550 that's really why we're going to be back 1242 00:57:20,090 --> 00:57:16,530 in just another couple minutes with some 1243 00:57:22,460 --> 00:57:20,100 more of George Lugo's life and we're 1244 00:57:24,830 --> 00:57:22,470 going to talk about those predictions 1245 00:57:27,770 --> 00:57:24,840 that he made it as a kid and see if he's 1246 00:58:01,960 --> 00:57:27,780 got any more for us for the future hang 1247 00:58:01,970 --> 00:58:16,330 nothing 1248 00:58:22,190 --> 00:58:19,760 hello everyone Laurieann Fenton here 1249 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:22,200 hosted the 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--> 01:01:12,229 you're locked into inception radio 1305 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:58,740 this 1306 01:01:58,750 --> 01:02:25,790 what 1307 01:02:30,930 --> 01:02:29,070 and you are back with us where you're 1308 01:02:33,210 --> 01:02:30,940 listening to night vision radio I'm your 1309 01:02:36,620 --> 01:02:33,220 host Renee Barnett our very special 1310 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:36,630 guest tonight is medium george lugo 1311 01:02:43,740 --> 01:02:40,810 George you know during the break you 1312 01:02:46,260 --> 01:02:43,750 were doing a little bit of spontaneous 1313 01:02:50,450 --> 01:02:46,270 reading for our wonderful producer MJ 1314 01:02:53,820 --> 01:02:50,460 and we also were you also brought up 1315 01:02:55,740 --> 01:02:53,830 animals and dogs and I noticed that the 1316 01:02:58,740 --> 01:02:55,750 chat room had been buzzing for quite a 1317 01:03:02,310 --> 01:02:58,750 while about dogs after you told us the 1318 01:03:04,260 --> 01:03:02,320 Howard story and they were speculating 1319 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:04,270 on doggy heaven and the set and the 1320 01:03:08,550 --> 01:03:06,370 other and I'm thinking well if he was 1321 01:03:11,790 --> 01:03:08,560 following the dog then that must mean 1322 01:03:14,430 --> 01:03:11,800 dogs are going to be in the afterlife I 1323 01:03:17,820 --> 01:03:14,440 mean I have some beloved pets on the 1324 01:03:21,570 --> 01:03:17,830 other side and I'd love to see them all 1325 01:03:23,850 --> 01:03:21,580 again is that possible absolutely I was 1326 01:03:26,730 --> 01:03:23,860 doing a reading for about 80 people and 1327 01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:26,740 this one venue and there was a guy 1328 01:03:31,950 --> 01:03:28,870 sitting in the far corner the very 1329 01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:31,960 furthest corner of the room and I was up 1330 01:03:35,970 --> 01:03:34,240 in the front because I you know I don't 1331 01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:35,980 say is there somebody with a pickup over 1332 01:03:41,850 --> 01:03:38,110 here I go right to you and I tell you 1333 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:41,860 what I see so this guy I kept getting 1334 01:03:47,820 --> 01:03:44,650 pulled to him and when I looked over 1335 01:03:49,890 --> 01:03:47,830 there I saw seven horses standing around 1336 01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:49,900 him with big chest and they were really 1337 01:03:54,060 --> 01:03:52,240 fancy horses like they were they were 1338 01:03:55,350 --> 01:03:54,070 totally didn't have any bridles on her 1339 01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:55,360 saddles or anything but they were just 1340 01:04:00,180 --> 01:03:58,090 muscular and perfect and there was seven 1341 01:04:02,220 --> 01:04:00,190 of them and this guy look like a total 1342 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:02,230 office nerdy at a pocket protector the 1343 01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:04,450 black friend glasses the pastel yellow 1344 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:06,910 short-sleeved shirt and kind of greasy 1345 01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:08,890 parted here and he's just sitting there 1346 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:12,160 and I said sir I see seven horses around 1347 01:04:17,610 --> 01:04:14,250 you and the guy just are almost like 1348 01:04:20,070 --> 01:04:17,620 uncontrollably crying just just out of 1349 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:20,080 his mind you couldn't talk so I walked 1350 01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:21,610 off with you and I said there's a seven 1351 01:04:25,290 --> 01:04:22,840 horses around you and they're very 1352 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:25,300 strong and they're your pets and they're 1353 01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:26,770 just letting you know that they're 1354 01:04:32,630 --> 01:04:28,630 perfect next and after still with you 1355 01:04:35,730 --> 01:04:32,640 and the story was his brother was a um 1356 01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:35,740 he would breed horses and and you bring 1357 01:04:38,620 --> 01:04:37,990 racehorses and they would go at the 1358 01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:38,630 Kentucky tour 1359 01:04:42,249 --> 01:04:40,160 and they would win all these things and 1360 01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:42,259 then he had to retire them so every time 1361 01:04:47,410 --> 01:04:44,569 he retired one he would send them out to 1362 01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:47,420 Arizona to this to his brother who had a 1363 01:04:51,849 --> 01:04:49,369 lot of property so he ended up with 1364 01:04:53,140 --> 01:04:51,859 seven horses eventually and he didn't 1365 01:04:56,069 --> 01:04:53,150 know what to do with them so he has made 1366 01:04:58,599 --> 01:04:56,079 him his pets so there was a tree line 1367 01:05:01,299 --> 01:04:58,609 way at the back of this property that 1368 01:05:03,309 --> 01:05:01,309 said it like a like a line going across 1369 01:05:04,779 --> 01:05:03,319 the property the horses would hang out 1370 01:05:07,930 --> 01:05:04,789 there during the day because it was so 1371 01:05:10,839 --> 01:05:07,940 hot well in the morning he would get up 1372 01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:10,849 on his get on his a porch and he would 1373 01:05:14,980 --> 01:05:13,039 whistle or column or hawk the trucks 1374 01:05:17,499 --> 01:05:14,990 horn and it all come running out of the 1375 01:05:19,630 --> 01:05:17,509 trees up to his deck and he'd feed them 1376 01:05:21,759 --> 01:05:19,640 in all this well one morning he went out 1377 01:05:23,859 --> 01:05:21,769 there and he didn't answer any thought 1378 01:05:25,630 --> 01:05:23,869 maybe they got out or somehow so he got 1379 01:05:28,089 --> 01:05:25,640 his pickup and he drove down there and 1380 01:05:30,700 --> 01:05:28,099 all seven of his horses were dead oh my 1381 01:05:33,819 --> 01:05:30,710 god poison somebody poisoned them all oh 1382 01:05:36,730 --> 01:05:33,829 and so he was just like super distraught 1383 01:05:39,190 --> 01:05:36,740 about it so anyway they came to him that 1384 01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:39,200 night and but what I can tell of your 1385 01:05:44,230 --> 01:05:42,710 listeners is that sometimes it can be 1386 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:44,240 either pets or people that have crossed 1387 01:05:49,569 --> 01:05:46,970 over and anyone who's the left any of 1388 01:05:51,999 --> 01:05:49,579 your dogs or cats you know watch them 1389 01:05:53,230 --> 01:05:52,009 because they're very attached those 1390 01:05:55,089 --> 01:05:53,240 people and they can kind of see things 1391 01:05:56,890 --> 01:05:55,099 better than we can mmm so if you ever 1392 01:05:58,930 --> 01:05:56,900 see your dog like pick up your pick up 1393 01:06:00,249 --> 01:05:58,940 their head or your cat and they're 1394 01:06:02,589 --> 01:06:00,259 looking at something like tracking 1395 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:02,599 something going across the room that's 1396 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:04,970 usually a soul that's probably attached 1397 01:06:12,249 --> 01:06:08,450 to you and so or sometimes your dog will 1398 01:06:14,170 --> 01:06:12,259 just you know sit there looking in the 1399 01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:14,180 corner because soul sometimes go into 1400 01:06:17,650 --> 01:06:16,400 corners that way the night interfering 1401 01:06:22,059 --> 01:06:17,660 with your life and so he was kind of 1402 01:06:23,650 --> 01:06:22,069 watching me watch TV oh and so you know 1403 01:06:26,499 --> 01:06:23,660 that's a really strange that you would 1404 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:26,509 say that you know not to bring my 1405 01:06:33,460 --> 01:06:28,690 personal stories into it too much but I 1406 01:06:37,359 --> 01:06:33,470 remember after my daughter passed for 1407 01:06:41,499 --> 01:06:37,369 the longest time I felt like she was up 1408 01:06:44,349 --> 01:06:41,509 in the corner in my bedroom and I would 1409 01:06:47,859 --> 01:06:44,359 always be drawn to that corner right up 1410 01:06:52,030 --> 01:06:47,869 by the ceiling and I would kind of talk 1411 01:06:54,820 --> 01:06:52,040 to her talk to that spot in it I don't 1412 01:06:56,590 --> 01:06:54,830 no why I felt that but i but I did it's 1413 01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:56,600 the first time I've heard anyone say 1414 01:07:00,310 --> 01:06:58,370 that they do try to kind of stay out of 1415 01:07:01,690 --> 01:07:00,320 the way yeah they kind of stay out of 1416 01:07:04,030 --> 01:07:01,700 the way a little bit because you'll feel 1417 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:04,040 their energy and you'll know who it is 1418 01:07:08,740 --> 01:07:06,410 that's another thing when you guys start 1419 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:08,750 sensing things out there don't use your 1420 01:07:15,610 --> 01:07:11,450 mind so much use your heart more feel 1421 01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:15,620 what you think Arsene feel it and that 1422 01:07:18,550 --> 01:07:16,880 way they can communicate with you a 1423 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:18,560 little bit easier or they'll let you 1424 01:07:22,930 --> 01:07:21,050 know that it's them um there's all kinds 1425 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:22,940 of things like that that we can do um 1426 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:25,010 you know that feeling you get when 1427 01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:27,170 you're in a room and you're by yourself 1428 01:07:30,910 --> 01:07:28,910 and you get this feeling like someone's 1429 01:07:33,340 --> 01:07:30,920 in there with you yeah but there's 1430 01:07:35,620 --> 01:07:33,350 nobody there that's usually a soul 1431 01:07:37,540 --> 01:07:35,630 listening to your thoughts so let's say 1432 01:07:39,550 --> 01:07:37,550 you're washing the dishes and you think 1433 01:07:41,470 --> 01:07:39,560 you're gonna you want to buy a new car 1434 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:41,480 and then you begin to talk yourself out 1435 01:07:45,130 --> 01:07:43,130 of it because the finances or whatever 1436 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:45,140 and then you get that sensation like 1437 01:07:49,810 --> 01:07:47,450 someone's in the room well we usually go 1438 01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:49,820 to our logical mind and we think wow did 1439 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:51,680 somebody just pull in the driveway or is 1440 01:07:55,630 --> 01:07:53,330 somebody in my backyard and then we 1441 01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:55,640 forget about the car all together always 1442 01:07:59,080 --> 01:07:57,650 try to remember what it was you were 1443 01:08:01,690 --> 01:07:59,090 thinking about when you get that 1444 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:01,700 sensation because that's a soul telling 1445 01:08:07,180 --> 01:08:04,490 you go get the car start looking for 1446 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:07,190 that car since we're on the physical 1447 01:08:12,370 --> 01:08:09,890 side we have to you know get on the 1448 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:12,380 internet go look talk to people to find 1449 01:08:17,110 --> 01:08:14,450 the car do you want what they do have 1450 01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:17,120 souls is they jump ahead of you and the 1451 01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:20,000 open that door of opportunity and they 1452 01:08:24,820 --> 01:08:22,400 do it with they do it with you know also 1453 01:08:26,380 --> 01:08:24,830 like goals you have this long-range goal 1454 01:08:28,329 --> 01:08:26,390 in the thinking man I'm never going to 1455 01:08:30,820 --> 01:08:28,339 be able to obtain that I don't have the 1456 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:30,830 skills or the knowledge or the materials 1457 01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:32,930 to do it and then somebody comes out of 1458 01:08:37,450 --> 01:08:35,600 nowhere and let's say hey Renee I don't 1459 01:08:39,220 --> 01:08:37,460 need this anymore here you take it and 1460 01:08:42,370 --> 01:08:39,230 it's the perfect thing to get you to 1461 01:08:44,620 --> 01:08:42,380 that goal and so and I call those people 1462 01:08:47,670 --> 01:08:44,630 heaven sent because they're real people 1463 01:08:51,329 --> 01:08:47,680 but sometimes if some relative of yours 1464 01:08:53,770 --> 01:08:51,339 will put that person in your path and 1465 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:53,780 and you just take it and say thank you 1466 01:09:00,160 --> 01:08:57,290 you know and so that's another way that 1467 01:09:02,050 --> 01:09:00,170 Souls reaches they also look I think 1468 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:02,060 we've all had that had that sort of 1469 01:09:05,530 --> 01:09:04,370 happened and then we probably just say 1470 01:09:07,210 --> 01:09:05,540 oh wow what a 1471 01:09:09,789 --> 01:09:07,220 great coincidence I just needed that 1472 01:09:12,220 --> 01:09:09,799 that's exactly what I needed you know 1473 01:09:14,410 --> 01:09:12,230 but but you're right it's so 1474 01:09:16,690 --> 01:09:14,420 synchronistic that you really can't you 1475 01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:16,700 know country usually nor it okay here's 1476 01:09:20,380 --> 01:09:18,080 the other thing to look out for when 1477 01:09:22,210 --> 01:09:20,390 that does happen to you when that 1478 01:09:24,460 --> 01:09:22,220 message comes to you or whatever that is 1479 01:09:26,530 --> 01:09:24,470 and you think it's your dad or is your 1480 01:09:29,140 --> 01:09:26,540 mom or somebody like that they usually 1481 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:29,150 will sign off on it immediately like you 1482 01:09:32,440 --> 01:09:30,890 might hear their name called in public 1483 01:09:34,690 --> 01:09:32,450 you might see their name on a billboard 1484 01:09:38,289 --> 01:09:34,700 or a street sign you might turn on your 1485 01:09:40,809 --> 01:09:38,299 radio and it's a song day loved so they 1486 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:40,819 usually will acknowledge that it was 1487 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:43,730 them on some level and and that way and 1488 01:09:47,650 --> 01:09:45,530 you just say thank you I you know and 1489 01:09:49,570 --> 01:09:47,660 they're always trying to help us I mean 1490 01:09:52,059 --> 01:09:49,580 they cannot change our life path but 1491 01:09:53,950 --> 01:09:52,069 they're allowed to nudge and so they 1492 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:53,960 live in our intuition to they you know 1493 01:09:58,060 --> 01:09:55,970 ask them and you don't have to do 1494 01:09:59,590 --> 01:09:58,070 anything you know you don't have to hire 1495 01:10:01,240 --> 01:09:59,600 a bunch of Indians to jump around your 1496 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:01,250 living room to try to bring them in you 1497 01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:03,650 don't have to do anything like that you 1498 01:10:08,110 --> 01:10:05,600 just sit down and talk to them like 1499 01:10:10,540 --> 01:10:08,120 during the room with you all you have to 1500 01:10:13,090 --> 01:10:10,550 do is work with love just work with love 1501 01:10:15,850 --> 01:10:13,100 just just think of them in a very loving 1502 01:10:17,950 --> 01:10:15,860 way it's a little memory through you 1503 01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:17,960 know they're just a thought away so just 1504 01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:20,000 think of them that way and then 1505 01:10:24,940 --> 01:10:22,400 sometimes they'll bring a smell to you 1506 01:10:27,340 --> 01:10:24,950 you might smell their perfume or their 1507 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:27,350 cologne or if they work with cars you 1508 01:10:31,540 --> 01:10:29,810 might smell oil you know in your living 1509 01:10:34,270 --> 01:10:31,550 room but where there's nothing there 1510 01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:34,280 like that you know they'll give you 1511 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:36,320 signs will let you know sometimes the 1512 01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:38,210 aiport things and they're just playing 1513 01:10:42,460 --> 01:10:40,400 with you like you put your car keys down 1514 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:42,470 turn around and to get something else 1515 01:10:45,820 --> 01:10:43,970 and turn around their car keys are gone 1516 01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:45,830 they're across the room now you know 1517 01:10:49,540 --> 01:10:47,360 they do real things like that to let you 1518 01:10:52,210 --> 01:10:49,550 know they're there or they'll do 1519 01:10:55,540 --> 01:10:52,220 something that you're familiar with with 1520 01:10:58,060 --> 01:10:55,550 them and I'll you know do something 1521 01:11:00,100 --> 01:10:58,070 that's kind of funny that you'll catch 1522 01:11:03,250 --> 01:11:00,110 it and go play my mom used to do that 1523 01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:03,260 all the time yeah and so that sort of 1524 01:11:07,180 --> 01:11:04,880 stuff yeah they're around us all the 1525 01:11:10,270 --> 01:11:07,190 time you know it's not a it isn't really 1526 01:11:12,970 --> 01:11:10,280 that big of a deal and also uh I'll be 1527 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:12,980 got to do it's not even having to 1528 01:11:19,060 --> 01:11:16,130 believe is it is just a fact you know 1529 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:19,070 that that they're around us um 1530 01:11:23,410 --> 01:11:21,050 adult kinds of things I could tell you 1531 01:11:25,780 --> 01:11:23,420 about them but yeah I come to us in our 1532 01:11:27,250 --> 01:11:25,790 dreams you know occasionally they're 1533 01:11:29,500 --> 01:11:27,260 actually more awake when you're asleep 1534 01:11:31,540 --> 01:11:29,510 because that's where all your messages 1535 01:11:33,069 --> 01:11:31,550 are that's where all your events are 1536 01:11:37,209 --> 01:11:33,079 going to happen as where everything is 1537 01:11:39,879 --> 01:11:37,219 so in were awake that dream stage kind 1538 01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:39,889 of percolates up into our awake stage 1539 01:11:44,589 --> 01:11:42,710 and in not knowing all the time 1540 01:11:47,939 --> 01:11:44,599 sometimes we use some of that stuff to 1541 01:11:52,030 --> 01:11:47,949 get us through another day you know so 1542 01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:52,040 yeah it just goes on and on and on early 1543 01:11:56,260 --> 01:11:54,800 early in the show you talked about he 1544 01:11:58,810 --> 01:11:56,270 told us about when you were a kid and 1545 01:12:02,260 --> 01:11:58,820 you would have these ideas or these 1546 01:12:04,780 --> 01:12:02,270 thoughts or predictions I guess that 1547 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:04,790 would come into your mind and you would 1548 01:12:09,939 --> 01:12:06,650 write them down or you would draw them 1549 01:12:11,919 --> 01:12:09,949 and your teacher was collecting them do 1550 01:12:13,950 --> 01:12:11,929 you still get those do you still is 1551 01:12:17,910 --> 01:12:13,960 there anything you could tell us about 1552 01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:17,920 something that we might relate to today 1553 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:21,199 atmosphere I just feel the atmosphere 1554 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:23,690 the whole world's atmosphere has been 1555 01:12:30,339 --> 01:12:27,650 changed by us you know and and it's 1556 01:12:32,140 --> 01:12:30,349 going to be a lot of I just kind of is 1557 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:32,150 you know I want to be doom and gloom but 1558 01:12:36,850 --> 01:12:33,290 I do feel like there's going to be like 1559 01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:36,860 a lot of people passing away now and in 1560 01:12:41,140 --> 01:12:39,679 the near future lots and lots of people 1561 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:41,150 but I mean worldwide it's not going to 1562 01:12:44,290 --> 01:12:42,770 be just the stage it's going to be 1563 01:12:46,780 --> 01:12:44,300 Europe's going to be South America 1564 01:12:49,810 --> 01:12:46,790 Africa all of it I just feel that 1565 01:12:52,750 --> 01:12:49,820 there's a lot of you know that kind of 1566 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:52,760 thing looming and it's man-made and I 1567 01:12:58,330 --> 01:12:54,290 feel you I feel that it's in the 1568 01:13:00,069 --> 01:12:58,340 atmosphere it's been changed and so you 1569 01:13:01,660 --> 01:13:00,079 can expect some interesting things to 1570 01:13:04,569 --> 01:13:01,670 happen I feel people are getting kind of 1571 01:13:06,490 --> 01:13:04,579 fearful um I also see the very good 1572 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:06,500 stuff too there's a lot of really 1573 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:08,449 wonderful things you know it's easy to 1574 01:13:13,569 --> 01:13:10,250 talk about bad stuff it's a lot harder 1575 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:13,579 to talk about good stuff so really it's 1576 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:16,610 our attitudes need to be adjusted a 1577 01:13:21,300 --> 01:13:18,050 little bit and we need to love each 1578 01:13:24,399 --> 01:13:21,310 other a lot more you know it's just um 1579 01:13:27,790 --> 01:13:24,409 that's in the game this atmosphere thing 1580 01:13:29,709 --> 01:13:27,800 is there something that could be done to 1581 01:13:32,049 --> 01:13:29,719 change it or have we already passed the 1582 01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:32,059 point of no return on that I feel like 1583 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:32,960 we've passed 1584 01:13:38,770 --> 01:13:35,690 point you know and I feel like they're 1585 01:13:43,330 --> 01:13:38,780 still working on it and figuring out 1586 01:13:46,570 --> 01:13:43,340 other ways to sort of mitigate the 1587 01:13:48,910 --> 01:13:46,580 damages yeah to just like stay in the 1588 01:13:51,070 --> 01:13:48,920 atman it just feels atmospheric to me 1589 01:13:53,770 --> 01:13:51,080 and that people are breathing all the 1590 01:13:55,810 --> 01:13:53,780 stuff in and it's just not good for us 1591 01:13:58,300 --> 01:13:55,820 and you're just gonna see a lot of 1592 01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:58,310 different changes in our children that's 1593 01:14:02,610 --> 01:14:00,080 another thing the positive thing is a 1594 01:14:06,459 --> 01:14:02,620 lot of children are being born with 1595 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:06,469 amazing abilities absolutely you know 1596 01:14:12,729 --> 01:14:09,530 just how in the world can they know that 1597 01:14:14,979 --> 01:14:12,739 you don't mean and it's not just a child 1598 01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:14,989 i'm talking like as soon as I can talk 1599 01:14:20,440 --> 01:14:17,210 you know they can save things that are 1600 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:20,450 so adult or so knowledgeable and even 1601 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:23,330 use a vocabulary that you might not even 1602 01:14:28,420 --> 01:14:25,730 know yet i mean i can tell you something 1603 01:14:32,260 --> 01:14:28,430 now about somebody that came to me 1604 01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:32,270 Ashley well this person came to me right 1605 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:35,450 and he's got all these phd's in a box 1606 01:14:41,470 --> 01:14:39,170 full of master's degrees and he really a 1607 01:14:43,450 --> 01:14:41,480 happy guy big eyes he's real happy to 1608 01:14:47,410 --> 01:14:43,460 sit down so I'm reading for him and I 1609 01:14:50,740 --> 01:14:47,420 said I get this really weird sensation 1610 01:14:52,900 --> 01:14:50,750 from you and I'm seeing away I think 1611 01:14:54,430 --> 01:14:52,910 it's a language to almost like chicken 1612 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:54,440 scratch and kind of weird geometric 1613 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:56,210 shapes and all this stuff and he kept 1614 01:15:01,450 --> 01:14:58,130 smiling bigger and bigger and I just 1615 01:15:03,910 --> 01:15:01,460 said okay know what is this I side to me 1616 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:03,920 it feels alien Isis that's exactly right 1617 01:15:11,500 --> 01:15:08,570 he says he was born and he never had 1618 01:15:13,930 --> 01:15:11,510 like a normal dream pattern he would 1619 01:15:16,090 --> 01:15:13,940 always dream of these symbols and all 1620 01:15:18,490 --> 01:15:16,100 this stuff so he said he became really 1621 01:15:20,500 --> 01:15:18,500 aware of it when he was at the beach and 1622 01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:20,510 he was I fell asleep on the this kind of 1623 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:22,400 deserted part of the beach and when he 1624 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:25,130 woke up there was all these symbols 1625 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:27,410 around him in a circle that went out all 1626 01:15:35,020 --> 01:15:31,250 like 20 feet so he took pictures of it 1627 01:15:38,110 --> 01:15:35,030 with this cell phone and it's alien um 1628 01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:38,120 it's of alien origin and it's a language 1629 01:15:45,610 --> 01:15:43,520 and to take it even further NASA is 1630 01:15:46,490 --> 01:15:45,620 teaching all the astronauts this 1631 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:46,500 language 1632 01:15:57,260 --> 01:15:54,090 so NASA sent him to me to see what I 1633 01:16:02,120 --> 01:15:57,270 could get out of this for him so he's 1634 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:02,130 training he's only 26 and he's training 1635 01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:03,930 all these astronauts these other 1636 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:06,960 languages so get ready for that that's 1637 01:16:12,020 --> 01:16:09,930 coming too and what about so about a 1638 01:16:14,660 --> 01:16:12,030 about two months later I get into the 1639 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:14,670 phone call and as this japanese girl was 1640 01:16:20,300 --> 01:16:18,570 calling me from australia exactly the 1641 01:16:22,850 --> 01:16:20,310 same thing and I just kind of put 1642 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:22,860 together i just said object do you work 1643 01:16:27,020 --> 01:16:25,170 is like on this team that's like helping 1644 01:16:29,270 --> 01:16:27,030 the astronauts hey shona laughing she 1645 01:16:32,750 --> 01:16:29,280 goes yes I am they told me to call you I 1646 01:16:34,460 --> 01:16:32,760 said wow that's amazing she goes yeah 1647 01:16:36,710 --> 01:16:34,470 it's about seven language that our 1648 01:16:38,090 --> 01:16:36,720 astronauts are learning dad they're 1649 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:38,100 gonna need it when they go up and all 1650 01:16:44,570 --> 01:16:40,650 that kind of stuff so did them tell you 1651 01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:44,580 you know it's all classified or yeah I 1652 01:16:50,570 --> 01:16:46,080 pretty much is I'm just kind of blew it 1653 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:50,580 yeah I hope I'm here tomorrow so if you 1654 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:52,290 disappear will look for you on another 1655 01:16:58,850 --> 01:16:56,570 planet but now this atmospheric 1656 01:17:01,910 --> 01:16:58,860 situation do you feel like that's tight 1657 01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:01,920 in there with maybe colonization of 1658 01:17:08,180 --> 01:17:05,520 other planets or that sort of thing I 1659 01:17:09,860 --> 01:17:08,190 think they're trying to lower the 1660 01:17:11,630 --> 01:17:09,870 numbers on the planets what I am wholly 1661 01:17:12,740 --> 01:17:11,640 you think of trying to do is they be a 1662 01:17:14,810 --> 01:17:12,750 lot of different illness there's not a 1663 01:17:16,910 --> 01:17:14,820 virus there's a lot of you know things 1664 01:17:18,970 --> 01:17:16,920 of that nature that are going to be kind 1665 01:17:22,130 --> 01:17:18,980 of plaguing all over the place and just 1666 01:17:23,570 --> 01:17:22,140 you'll see it'll take about I say 1667 01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:23,580 another eight years from now things are 1668 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:25,440 going to be really different seven to 1669 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:28,410 eight years the way we live here you 1670 01:17:32,570 --> 01:17:30,050 know unless it unless they can somehow 1671 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:32,580 change all this but I don't see any 1672 01:17:38,780 --> 01:17:34,770 addadd changes i see is going to get 1673 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:38,790 stronger and little meaner and so just 1674 01:17:44,060 --> 01:17:41,610 we gotta hang in there you know you hear 1675 01:17:45,980 --> 01:17:44,070 you know about secret societies somebody 1676 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:45,990 in the chat room earlier mentioned the 1677 01:17:54,020 --> 01:17:49,530 Prairie of Zion and I know I've done 1678 01:17:55,730 --> 01:17:54,030 some research into those areas and met 1679 01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:55,740 people who you know purported to be 1680 01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:58,050 members of these secret societies and it 1681 01:18:05,350 --> 01:17:59,920 seemed like they all talked about 1682 01:18:09,460 --> 01:18:05,360 some calming event and they refer to 1683 01:18:11,890 --> 01:18:09,470 something called the calling and you 1684 01:18:13,630 --> 01:18:11,900 know it was it very much sounds like 1685 01:18:17,550 --> 01:18:13,640 what you just said about they're trying 1686 01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:17,560 to lower the numbers on the planet I 1687 01:18:24,100 --> 01:18:20,050 wonder if there's a tie in with that 1688 01:18:26,740 --> 01:18:24,110 could be you know um it very well could 1689 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:26,750 be it just said well you know I don't 1690 01:18:30,820 --> 01:18:28,130 know anything about this ion thing but 1691 01:18:32,890 --> 01:18:30,830 that's you know what I'm getting what 1692 01:18:36,370 --> 01:18:32,900 I'm seeing and what I know is happening 1693 01:18:38,410 --> 01:18:36,380 I feel like you know they're kind of 1694 01:18:40,570 --> 01:18:38,420 dumbing everybody down tell them don't 1695 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:40,580 worry about it's okay you're not really 1696 01:18:45,610 --> 01:18:42,890 seeing this and you know and it's 1697 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:45,620 happening it's subtle but it's going to 1698 01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:49,610 snowball yeah and so I'm just in this as 1699 01:18:56,890 --> 01:18:52,400 this is related to the sort of climate 1700 01:18:59,050 --> 01:18:56,900 change deniers oh yeah yeah yeah it's 1701 01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:59,060 everything but I think it's more of an 1702 01:19:04,330 --> 01:19:01,040 atmospheric thing where affects our 1703 01:19:07,870 --> 01:19:04,340 bodies it makes us sick and all of that 1704 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:07,880 I know that in in Arizona there's a 1705 01:19:11,980 --> 01:19:10,130 place I used to go to now it's off 1706 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:11,990 limits and it's also guarded by the 1707 01:19:16,780 --> 01:19:14,330 government but all the plants that there 1708 01:19:19,480 --> 01:19:16,790 are turning purple everything's turning 1709 01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:19,490 purple up there and they won't let you 1710 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:22,310 up there so it's um what was that some 1711 01:19:27,700 --> 01:19:25,250 kind of a test site or something I don't 1712 01:19:31,420 --> 01:19:27,710 know i don't think so but i could be 1713 01:19:34,090 --> 01:19:31,430 wrong you know I just don't on where is 1714 01:19:37,930 --> 01:19:34,100 it in Arizona canyons on Mount Lemmon is 1715 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:37,940 Mount Lemmon in Tucson and the plants 1716 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:39,890 are all changing everything is changing 1717 01:19:44,380 --> 01:19:42,530 up there and they don't let anybody up 1718 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:44,390 there anymore and it's kind of like a 1719 01:19:50,650 --> 01:19:47,090 spider webby looking substance to it 1720 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:50,660 don't know whatever this is I don't know 1721 01:19:55,090 --> 01:19:53,210 if is you know an a hole in the ozone 1722 01:19:57,550 --> 01:19:55,100 that happened to zero in on that area 1723 01:19:58,990 --> 01:19:57,560 and kind of turn everything purple but 1724 01:20:02,440 --> 01:19:59,000 there's something definitely going on 1725 01:20:04,180 --> 01:20:02,450 with our planet in our atmosphere the 1726 01:20:06,010 --> 01:20:04,190 world is actually a pretty small place 1727 01:20:08,890 --> 01:20:06,020 if you've done any traveling around the 1728 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:08,900 world it really is a small place it's 1729 01:20:13,480 --> 01:20:12,530 not that large um ya know we need to 1730 01:20:15,460 --> 01:20:13,490 take care of it 1731 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:15,470 I don't know if it's to the point of no 1732 01:20:19,660 --> 01:20:17,570 return but it's pretty dang close it's 1733 01:20:21,700 --> 01:20:19,670 in that direction there are a lot of 1734 01:20:24,190 --> 01:20:21,710 things that are being done obvious that 1735 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:24,200 are really obvious that everybody is 1736 01:20:28,780 --> 01:20:25,970 saying I don't see it it's not happening 1737 01:20:32,530 --> 01:20:28,790 you know so anyway that's a whole 1738 01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:32,540 different thing but I hopefully i'll get 1739 01:20:37,870 --> 01:20:34,850 some sort of like vision of a more 1740 01:20:40,510 --> 01:20:37,880 positive thing but I think it's going to 1741 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:40,520 be within our children are all these for 1742 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:43,370 the last probably I would say I always 1743 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:46,970 hit the last probably 15 years there's a 1744 01:20:50,940 --> 01:20:49,010 whole new breed of children that are 1745 01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:50,950 being more that are just absolutely 1746 01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:54,320 insightful and just have information 1747 01:21:00,340 --> 01:20:58,250 there's just a mind-blowing um and 1748 01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:00,350 you'll you'll you'll see it it's coming 1749 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:01,700 out more and more all the time but 1750 01:21:05,290 --> 01:21:03,770 you'll see it you'll have experiences 1751 01:21:07,450 --> 01:21:05,300 with it I'm sure some of your listeners 1752 01:21:09,940 --> 01:21:07,460 have children that are that way you know 1753 01:21:15,700 --> 01:21:09,950 that are just brilliant yeah I have one 1754 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:15,710 like that that at least it's almost 12 1755 01:21:25,180 --> 01:21:20,690 now but he from the time he was like 45 1756 01:21:27,700 --> 01:21:25,190 years old he goes out to NASA JPL the 1757 01:21:29,890 --> 01:21:27,710 Jet Propulsion lab here oh wow in 1758 01:21:31,900 --> 01:21:29,900 Southern California and sits and chats 1759 01:21:35,260 --> 01:21:31,910 with the scientists and they all just 1760 01:21:37,420 --> 01:21:35,270 sit around and ask him questions because 1761 01:21:41,140 --> 01:21:37,430 he knows everything there is to know 1762 01:21:44,650 --> 01:21:41,150 about the planets about he can tell you 1763 01:21:47,650 --> 01:21:44,660 anything you know the tilt of the axis 1764 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:47,660 of Uranus or you know what the 1765 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:50,330 atmosphere is there all kinds of stuff 1766 01:21:55,870 --> 01:21:53,330 and it's it's just amazing and I know 1767 01:21:58,510 --> 01:21:55,880 he's not the only one I absolutely not 1768 01:21:59,890 --> 01:21:58,520 there's a lot of them and it so you know 1769 01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:59,900 I mean and those are the ones that are 1770 01:22:05,650 --> 01:22:01,520 gonna pull us through all of this you 1771 01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:05,660 know yeah he told me in the world give 1772 01:22:11,170 --> 01:22:09,410 me 10 something about um toddlers if 1773 01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:11,180 your listeners out there do you have a 1774 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:13,280 toddler listen to him because if they're 1775 01:22:18,430 --> 01:22:15,610 like playing with an imaginary friend 1776 01:22:21,550 --> 01:22:18,440 sometimes it could be a past you know a 1777 01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:21,560 relative who has passed because when 1778 01:22:26,890 --> 01:22:25,040 we're born into this world we kind of 1779 01:22:28,419 --> 01:22:26,900 remember the other side 1780 01:22:30,580 --> 01:22:28,429 and so we're acclimating to this 1781 01:22:32,979 --> 01:22:30,590 environment and our parents and there's 1782 01:22:34,930 --> 01:22:32,989 all this stuff so parents out there if 1783 01:22:37,419 --> 01:22:34,940 your kids are doing this sometimes they 1784 01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:37,429 may blurt out a name that you know they 1785 01:22:41,290 --> 01:22:39,170 don't know they never met that person 1786 01:22:43,180 --> 01:22:41,300 and they're part of the family that's 1787 01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:43,190 crossed over and sometimes they'll give 1788 01:22:49,149 --> 01:22:45,110 a piece of information like their name 1789 01:22:50,709 --> 01:22:49,159 or what a habit they did or things of 1790 01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:50,719 that nature and I would just say tell 1791 01:22:54,700 --> 01:22:52,730 them you know tell the parents to just 1792 01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:54,710 go with it you know and then what did he 1793 01:22:58,450 --> 01:22:56,690 say and then what it then would happen 1794 01:23:01,330 --> 01:22:58,460 and then you know and that little child 1795 01:23:02,649 --> 01:23:01,340 will tell you a lot of things because 1796 01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:02,659 they're still connected to the other 1797 01:23:08,770 --> 01:23:06,080 side as are coming into this world and 1798 01:23:10,450 --> 01:23:08,780 then eventually around five to seven 1799 01:23:12,580 --> 01:23:10,460 they start kind of like just completely 1800 01:23:15,070 --> 01:23:12,590 coming on this side yeah and they may 1801 01:23:17,110 --> 01:23:15,080 have some ability maybe not same thing 1802 01:23:19,060 --> 01:23:17,120 happens on the other end when you got 1803 01:23:21,580 --> 01:23:19,070 like aunt Bertha who's hallucinating we 1804 01:23:23,229 --> 01:23:21,590 call a dementia and she's saying hey my 1805 01:23:25,689 --> 01:23:23,239 sister was sitting on my bed last night 1806 01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:25,699 eating ice cream you can believe it just 1807 01:23:29,770 --> 01:23:27,920 go with it I always tell people go with 1808 01:23:32,260 --> 01:23:29,780 it don't say like you know she's nuts or 1809 01:23:34,780 --> 01:23:32,270 she's crazy go with it because they're 1810 01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:34,790 usually that's happening so souls will 1811 01:23:38,290 --> 01:23:36,110 start to come around somebody who's 1812 01:23:40,990 --> 01:23:38,300 getting ready to cross over and they 1813 01:23:42,580 --> 01:23:41,000 start seeing them and the best thing to 1814 01:23:44,860 --> 01:23:42,590 do with that situation is the same thing 1815 01:23:47,229 --> 01:23:44,870 well then would happen well what did 1816 01:23:48,970 --> 01:23:47,239 they say and sometimes it's just 1817 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:48,980 stranger souls that are just passing 1818 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:50,690 through and they just know that they're 1819 01:23:54,939 --> 01:23:52,730 getting ready to cross over and they'll 1820 01:23:56,860 --> 01:23:54,949 visit with them nobody can take your 1821 01:23:58,479 --> 01:23:56,870 life no soul can take your life and had 1822 01:24:00,399 --> 01:23:58,489 you know you debt happens on your own 1823 01:24:03,250 --> 01:24:00,409 but they're all people will be checking 1824 01:24:04,959 --> 01:24:03,260 in on you loved ones and they're usually 1825 01:24:07,060 --> 01:24:04,969 waiting there for you when you cross 1826 01:24:09,820 --> 01:24:07,070 over I get calls all the time for Mike 1827 01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:09,830 hospice from people that are like very 1828 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:11,840 religious and now they're on their 1829 01:24:16,899 --> 01:24:13,370 deathbed that whole thing went out the 1830 01:24:18,490 --> 01:24:16,909 window yeah what's that soft yeah all 1831 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:18,500 bets are off man what's worthy going to 1832 01:24:22,270 --> 01:24:20,290 happen and the best of my knowledge 1833 01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:22,280 enough and what I've always seen all my 1834 01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:25,250 life I just kind of describe it and get 1835 01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:27,890 ready for this and for that and they can 1836 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:29,840 relate to it you know what what do they 1837 01:24:36,010 --> 01:24:32,810 expect what what can we expect what we 1838 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:36,020 see and feel and smell and touch well 1839 01:24:39,860 --> 01:24:37,610 here's my take on it and this is what 1840 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:39,870 I've always seen this there's 1841 01:24:44,210 --> 01:24:41,970 everybody goes into a life review when 1842 01:24:45,860 --> 01:24:44,220 you cross over but using the very 1843 01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:45,870 beginning right before you cross over 1844 01:24:50,630 --> 01:24:48,690 you have souls that come around usually 1845 01:24:54,710 --> 01:24:50,640 family members and they take away your 1846 01:24:57,650 --> 01:24:54,720 fear of passing and so it's just 1847 01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:57,660 transition that's all it is so the only 1848 01:25:01,190 --> 01:25:00,000 thing I think people fear is how they're 1849 01:25:03,500 --> 01:25:01,200 going to transition you know are they 1850 01:25:05,090 --> 01:25:03,510 going to die in a car crash or get 1851 01:25:06,770 --> 01:25:05,100 stabbed to death down some alley or 1852 01:25:10,460 --> 01:25:06,780 something that's what people are really 1853 01:25:12,500 --> 01:25:10,470 afraid of but the actual passing when 1854 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:12,510 you're past that point it doesn't really 1855 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:14,730 matter but what I've always seen is that 1856 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:17,130 souls will come around you and you'll 1857 01:25:23,330 --> 01:25:19,650 notice them things will happen sometimes 1858 01:25:25,790 --> 01:25:23,340 well you can see them and then when you 1859 01:25:27,650 --> 01:25:25,800 do cross-over you go into a life review 1860 01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:27,660 so everything that you've ever done in 1861 01:25:32,060 --> 01:25:30,450 this life here is repeated really quick 1862 01:25:33,620 --> 01:25:32,070 and the way I've always seen it it looks 1863 01:25:35,690 --> 01:25:33,630 like an embryonic sac I know it sounds 1864 01:25:38,060 --> 01:25:35,700 kind of strange but like a paper bag or 1865 01:25:39,860 --> 01:25:38,070 embryonic sac and as soul is in there 1866 01:25:42,050 --> 01:25:39,870 that just crossed over and they're 1867 01:25:43,850 --> 01:25:42,060 seeing everything they've ever done but 1868 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:43,860 it looks like several strobe lights are 1869 01:25:48,590 --> 01:25:45,570 going off in it at the same time each 1870 01:25:51,770 --> 01:25:48,600 little flash is a part of your life that 1871 01:25:54,290 --> 01:25:51,780 you live when you were here so you get 1872 01:25:56,420 --> 01:25:54,300 to feel all the love you put on someone 1873 01:25:58,100 --> 01:25:56,430 and you get to feel their personality 1874 01:26:00,500 --> 01:25:58,110 and you kind of get the feel you kind of 1875 01:26:02,750 --> 01:26:00,510 get to be them for a moment and you feel 1876 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:02,760 how you open their lives and you just 1877 01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:05,610 expanded them and they just felt true 1878 01:26:10,970 --> 01:26:07,890 love with you and this kind of thing so 1879 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:10,980 that's great and so then you go to the 1880 01:26:16,850 --> 01:26:13,650 other end of the spectrum is where all 1881 01:26:19,100 --> 01:26:16,860 the bad things you did and intentionally 1882 01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:19,110 and sometimes not intentionally but you 1883 01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:20,930 get to be the person you did it to and 1884 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:23,280 go through what they went through and 1885 01:26:26,810 --> 01:26:24,930 how you change their life or kind of 1886 01:26:30,050 --> 01:26:26,820 tweak their hit a little bit because it 1887 01:26:32,990 --> 01:26:30,060 was very a very bad thing so you gotta 1888 01:26:34,700 --> 01:26:33,000 live through that again and but it 1889 01:26:37,190 --> 01:26:34,710 happens like how we are right now in 1890 01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:37,200 real time but there's like a split 1891 01:26:42,380 --> 01:26:40,560 second your whole life the way I've seen 1892 01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:42,390 it lasts about an hour hour and a half 1893 01:26:46,460 --> 01:26:44,850 and then it's hard to kind of describe 1894 01:26:50,210 --> 01:26:46,470 his there is no time there but anyway 1895 01:26:52,010 --> 01:26:50,220 when that's over I see them come out of 1896 01:26:53,359 --> 01:26:52,020 this bad or the sack thing and there's 1897 01:26:56,270 --> 01:26:53,369 usually two or three 1898 01:26:57,919 --> 01:26:56,280 tall purple beans and I do like angels 1899 01:27:01,219 --> 01:26:57,929 to me or something but they're all kind 1900 01:27:03,500 --> 01:27:01,229 of like the all they look compressed and 1901 01:27:06,109 --> 01:27:03,510 then when that person comes out to kind 1902 01:27:08,689 --> 01:27:06,119 of fan out a little bit and then right 1903 01:27:10,969 --> 01:27:08,699 behind these beans is the whole garden 1904 01:27:12,859 --> 01:27:10,979 of sold all your relatives your friends 1905 01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:12,869 your dogs or cat you know all those 1906 01:27:17,869 --> 01:27:15,090 people and animals are there and then 1907 01:27:19,899 --> 01:27:17,879 you go right into that realm of souls or 1908 01:27:23,689 --> 01:27:19,909 garden and sold and then you're in and 1909 01:27:26,239 --> 01:27:23,699 so I feel that the real hell we go 1910 01:27:28,669 --> 01:27:26,249 through is in that process of life 1911 01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:28,679 review because you get to be the person 1912 01:27:32,839 --> 01:27:30,840 you did bad things to and you get to be 1913 01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:32,849 the person that you did loving things to 1914 01:27:37,369 --> 01:27:34,800 you get to feel their personality so 1915 01:27:39,469 --> 01:27:37,379 it's a very unusual kind of feeling but 1916 01:27:41,449 --> 01:27:39,479 that's how I've always seen it and so 1917 01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:41,459 when I sound crazy but and then also 1918 01:27:45,529 --> 01:27:43,199 reincarnation here's what i've seen 1919 01:27:48,350 --> 01:27:45,539 about that you don't have to reincarnate 1920 01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:48,360 you can stay there for eternity if you 1921 01:27:53,330 --> 01:27:50,639 want but have noticed that people 1922 01:27:55,399 --> 01:27:53,340 usually don't think about really think 1923 01:27:57,949 --> 01:27:55,409 about reincarnation until everyone 1924 01:28:01,549 --> 01:27:57,959 they've ever loved and have been close 1925 01:28:05,239 --> 01:28:01,559 to has crossed over so yeah while 1926 01:28:07,279 --> 01:28:05,249 they're trying to help you George I hate 1927 01:28:09,139 --> 01:28:07,289 to break in that was a beautiful picture 1928 01:28:11,509 --> 01:28:09,149 that you painted of heaven for us or the 1929 01:28:14,449 --> 01:28:11,519 other side musics rolling and we've run 1930 01:28:16,250 --> 01:28:14,459 out of time oh thank you I thank you so 1931 01:28:19,279 --> 01:28:16,260 much for joining us next week we 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